box + 1 year service, ST $83.40 or DT $155.40, no rebate

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  1. Aug 3, 2006 #121 of 172
    jlb

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    But according to the TiVo policy, it has to dial in from the same service address. So, if I were following the policy correctly, I could not activate it under my account and then have it dial in from my Dad's house......
     
  2. Aug 3, 2006 #122 of 172
    mchips

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    Tricky, tricky... ;)

    Same household usually constitutes the same address.

    A second home would probably be the rare exception that TiVo would allow, unless the second home is being rented or leased out to someone other than the TiVo account holder... the same household clause is to prevent people from putting TiVo's from others under their account just to save them on the monthly fee... the MSD is meant to reward customers who purchase more than one TiVo for themselves/household/immediate family all living under the same roof.

    But, if you're going to continue to pay the monthly fee, then it would probably be allowed... but if your father is going to start paying the fee, then it would probably be in breach of the MSD terms to leave it under your account.

    Since the first year is prepay, and you paid it, and it doesn't qualify for the MSD for the first year anyway, it could probably stay under your account without any problems. Then, after the initial year is up, you can cancel the sub and have your father activate in his name, if he's going to continue the payments.

     
  3. Aug 3, 2006 #123 of 172
    Einselen

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    Problem with that is MSD. Person could have a monthly box now and pay 12.95. With the deal then that box goes to 6.95 with MSD. 6 months in the packaged box will go to father at different household yet still stay on the account still getting MSD for original box.

    I guess that person should technically call up Tivo and they could do an override.
     
  4. Aug 3, 2006 #124 of 172
    ZeoTiVo

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    it is against policy so that is all they could say but...................

    I did more or less the same thing for my Dad when I got him a 140 540 and just put it on my account. I pay it (to make up for some of the boneheaded things he had to pay my way out of ;) ) and it gets the MSD rate despite calling in from a faraway place and for guide data for an entirely different cable system. I have elected not to take up a TiVo CSR's valuable time by calling in to correct their mistake in applying the policy :D
    He uses a cable box for digital but was fine with using it for the TiVo. Now he happily watches lots of baseball games via TiVo
     
  5. Aug 3, 2006 #125 of 172
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    Yes the package is not eligble for MSD but the other tivos that are not packaged or lifetime do. So someone paying monthly can get MSD with this package, but that package after 6 months will go to the father. Very sticky with the terms.
     
  6. Aug 3, 2006 #126 of 172
    mchips

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    That's probably one of those gray areas they would allow, since he paid the full year's subscription...
     
  7. Aug 3, 2006 #127 of 172
    jlb

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    At 6.95, I would very much consider continuing to pay for the service for my Dad if he likes it enough to want to keep the TiVo. If he were paying, I don't know if he would like paying $12.95, especially considering that for 4-5 months of the year they come north to MA.

    I guess the bottom line is to get the thing, activate under my account with the pre-pay and then see what he thinks as the year draws to a close.

    I currently have 2 monthlies (12.95+6.95). While this pre-pay box itself would not be eligible for MSD, it would make my current 12.95 box eligible for the year.
     
  8. Aug 3, 2006 #128 of 172
    Einselen

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    I think it all comes in to who is paying. Since it is on your account it will tie the payment to you. I could theoretically have someone own a tivo under my acocunt who I don't know and give them the MSD but if they default on paying the month, it is my dime. I am sure that term is in there so if it is abused like I just mentioned of "Subleasing" then they can cancel my service or charge me more for it.

    Speaking of subleasing it brings me to a metaphorical situation. This MSD terms is just like the no subleasing allowed on some apartments. You are not able to resell/rerent your apt to someone else, however if you continue your payments and say your sister moves in the apt compnay won't care since you are still paying. Again it is all tied back to the account and who ultimatly is paying, or so I believe.
     
  9. Aug 3, 2006 #129 of 172
    ZeoTiVo

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    Actually I think that since TiVo has the policy that only 4 TiVos can be get the MSD per TiVo that qualifies them for the rate (a lifetime or full service or bundle ) that TiVo feels this covers them from abuse enough that it is just not worth going after any abuse of the policy unless they can detect a pattern of some Ebay clown reselling the service at say 10 bucks a month prepaid or whatever.

    There really is not big bucks to me made here because of that rule of 4 and it usually works out to Customers just feeling better about TiVo while giving TiVo better subscription numbers. EG - two TiVos being used by parents who would otherwise not use one.

    I am going to give a 540 TiVo to my Sister in Law because of the new DT I have but I know I will have them move it to their own account
     
  10. Aug 3, 2006 #130 of 172
    Einselen

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    That is big bucks to a college student. You know how much ramen one could buy with that extra income?
     
  11. Aug 3, 2006 #131 of 172
    ZeoTiVo

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    well you can get 4 TiVos hooked up under one main TiVo for the MSD

    so say you manage to hook four suckers or clients for 9.95$ a piece
    that is 9.95-6.95 = 3 X 4 =12$ x 4 packs for a dollar = 48 packs of ramen noodles

    so yah a pack a day plus some extra for date nights :D
     
  12. Aug 3, 2006 #132 of 172
    Einselen

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    4 packs for a dollar? Man you are getting ripped off. Plus I would also save and buy in bulk.

    Now to get back on topic... Since the Tivo comes preactivated does your year start the date you place your order, the date they ship it to you or a certain amount of days after it is shipped to cover shipping time? So out of 365 days I might be loosing 14to process the order and ship to me? That is two good weeks of TV! Well I really don't care, I just want to know what date to place on my calendar to call up and make sure I don't have to pay $20 for that first month.
     
  13. Aug 3, 2006 #133 of 172
    c3

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    "Multi-Service Discount is limited to a maximum of five (5) additional TiVo service subscriptions."
     
  14. Aug 4, 2006 #134 of 172
    jlb

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    [Update related to my Dad]

    Talked to my Mom last night.....put the idea by her and she said he wouldn't be into it. What we are going to do is this....My Mom, Sister, and my Wife and I are all going to chip in to get a GPS for my Dad's golf cart down at BallenIsles. Kind of cool that they use GPS on all of the courses down there. This will be a much better gift for him.

    Thanks to all for your thoughts in this thread (which I sort of hijacked for a while). At least I know exactly how to handle things.

    I did float the idea to my wife about getting the DT to replace our 2 S2s, given that we would be paying 12.95 per month versus 12.95+6.95, but we both didn't want to pay the upfront at the moment.......though I might have to try and talk to her further about it.
     
  15. Aug 6, 2006 #135 of 172
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    I bought one of these and set it up yesterday. I went to Tivo.com today, and it's not listed under my account. Anyone know why??
     
  16. Aug 6, 2006 #136 of 172
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    no idea. mine was there.
    you might want to call them and ask.
     
  17. Aug 6, 2006 #137 of 172
    jfh3

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    Try not to ask the same question in multiple threads ... and, as mentioned before, call Tivo and ask. My guess is that there was a typo in the initial setup and you have two accounts set up.
     
  18. Aug 7, 2006 #138 of 172
    rdlaub

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    Got mine also and set it up. Mine was listed.

    My problem is that I am unable to get the tivo to change the cable channels. (posted in another thread.) They are sending me a new one which I hope will solve the problem.
     
  19. Aug 7, 2006 #139 of 172
    mchips

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    Actually, as discussed in that thread, you can get it to change the channel...

    When on channels 2-99, it's changing the channel via the RF/Coax input, and only using the cable box when it has to (typically for digital channels above 99). You stated that it changes the channel on the cable box when you get to the higher channel numbers, but otherwise it only "changes it on the TiVo," which means it is changing the channels, but since it can only control one external cable box, it defaults to the analog cable signal when possible (typically channels 2 - 99).

    If you only want to use the cable box, you can go into the Channel settings and uncheck all channels indicated with "cab" which means it's a cable analog channel, and just leave the "box" channels checked. This way, it will only use the cable box. But keep in mind that if you do this, since it can only control one cable box at a time, you will then only be able to record one program at a time.
     
  20. Aug 7, 2006 #140 of 172
    rdlaub

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    If that is the case, how does Tivo record two analog channels (2-99) at the same time if it is not changing the cable box on at least one of the tuners for stations in that range?
     

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