box + 1 year service, ST $83.40 or DT $155.40, no rebate

So do I still have to fork out cash after one year to "own" the Tivo in order to be on service only? If I own the box after 1 year, why would anyone pay 19.95/month instead of 12.95/month. Are they trying to trick people by making them call and ask to get "service only" instead of getting...service only?

Why do they have to make this so difficult? It's like I need to get a lawyer before I sign this contract.

 

Seems to be about a wash..
From froogle.com's cheapest place (electronicnecessitites.com)
$214.99 + (6.95 * 12) - 150 = $156.32

Using amazon
($229.99 * .9843 (a9.com)) + (6.95 * 12) - 150 = $159.78

So it is a tiny bit cheaper and of course more convenient.. and presumably more of the money goes directly to Tivo...

All I'm saying (not trying to be a whiner) that it's not an EXTREMELY good deal like the freebie ones... still, while my dislike of more monthly fees isn't falling, at $6.95 it is less abhorrent than others... (Though with one of these, I'd have *5* tuners. That's a lot.. but dual tuners is very intriguing to me.)

 

As I understand it, to get the $12.95 (or $6.95 if this is a second or third tivo) you have to commit to another year with tivo. So it might be like cell phones where people are willing to pay a bit more to avoid the commitment? I dunno. I decided to grab one because i know I'll be with my current set-up for at least another year. Beyond that, not sure, so the multi-year deals aren't my cuppa tea.

Like Zeo, I will have to babysit some toddlers. . .

 

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I do not mind at all comitting to TiVo for another year after the first. Seems morethan reasonable to me, and something I would do anyway.

 

What is this referring to:
"All information requested on the special landing page must be provided at the time of purchase."

I know they also mention the landing page as the Tivo link in the first post in the thread. But what kind of extra info are they asking for?

 

None as far as I can tell.
There was no place to enter a membership number or any additional information at any point in the process.

And comparing the confirmation printout from the mops deal with the confirmation printout on the regular tivo purchase, the only difference is the price.

 

But if you get this deal as a second unit, you are only paying $6.95 for the second year. So, it is still a great deal.

 

Reading it over, it seems that with this deal, you get hte first year included, the second year at $19.99 OR if you do more than a year (ie 2 or 3 years) then you can get the MSD or the $12.95 plan.

Man, I wish they would put these fine prints in english.

I am also almost more tempted to just go to the store and get a second DT rather than this deal. There is not much of a difference, and there are no unanswered questions - like Do you own the box, how much after the first year, what if, etc, etc.

 

Sorry for being a little dense. If take the MOPS deal, in year 2, do I ge my multi service discount of 6.95. Are you sure of that? I thought with these new bundled plans they don't honor the MSD.

 

I already have a lifetime tivo so I assumed I would get $6.95 on the next one I bought. So, I am still trying to clarify whether this would qualify for the 6.95 once the first year is up.

 

I called the sales department to see if my free refurb 80/hr had already shipped and it's on its way.. So now I have to refuse delivery of THAT unit and order the MOPS unit (same unit)... TIVO tells me that I can't just get the new deal with a little "paper swap". Seems like a huge waste to me, but it's going to save me $72. A big thanks to whoever posted the MOPS deal!!!


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You must have read the FW thread to be concerned about owning/renting. You always own the box. There is no such thing as TiVo rental plan.

Okay, maybe I'm just touchy, but there is essentially such a thing in the package plan. If you go with a monthly package deal and default early then :

# Early termination fee up to $200 applies if canceled prior to commitment end date, except as permitted by 30 day Money Back Guarantee.

It's more of a lease to own. Also, although people are getting conflicting reports from csr's, the terms and conditions indicate you have to continue on a service plan, or you might be in default of the terms and conditions of the tivo package program.

 

Stay away from this deal if you don't want to pay 19.95/ month after a year!

I just called customer support. They had no idea what the special is or what the fine print means for sure. They transfered me to the sales phone number. They said they don't know anything for sure and they are the last to hear from "corporate", and I should call customer service. I called customer service back. They were finally able to bring up the webpage showing the deal (after saying it was a deal for a refurbed unit). Then they told me that the fine print meant that I was only paying for the service for the first year. Then I was going to have to pay 19.95 for the next year in order to actually pay for the box. They said that the price could be lower if I extended paying the box off over 2 or 3 years. This opinion was different than what the other reps had "guessed", so I asked if he was 100% sure, in light of the fact that it says I can pay the "Service Only Payment Plan price for a longer commitment term", and he talked to a co-worker at his desk and said 100% sure. He told me it was like buying a car or something.

My wife actually received this offer in the email, but we are just more irritated than happy with this "special" at this point. What a black eye for Tivo from an otherwise happy customer.