box + 1 year service, ST $83.40 or DT $155.40, no rebate

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  1. Jul 27, 2006 #41 of 172
    c3

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    As with ALL rebates, make at least one copy for yourself. You don't have a copy for a $150 rebate??? Also, don't send in the originals if they're not required.
     
  2. Jul 27, 2006 #42 of 172
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    So do I still have to fork out cash after one year to "own" the Tivo in order to be on service only? If I own the box after 1 year, why would anyone pay 19.95/month instead of 12.95/month. Are they trying to trick people by making them call and ask to get "service only" instead of getting...service only?

    Why do they have to make this so difficult? It's like I need to get a lawyer before I sign this contract.
     
  3. Jul 27, 2006 #43 of 172
    mattack

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    Seems to be about a wash..
    From froogle.com's cheapest place (electronicnecessitites.com)
    $214.99 + (6.95 * 12) - 150 = $156.32

    Using amazon
    ($229.99 * .9843 (a9.com)) + (6.95 * 12) - 150 = $159.78

    So it is a tiny bit cheaper and of course more convenient.. and presumably more of the money goes directly to Tivo...

    All I'm saying (not trying to be a whiner) that it's not an EXTREMELY good deal like the freebie ones... still, while my dislike of more monthly fees isn't falling, at $6.95 it is less abhorrent than others... (Though with one of these, I'd have *5* tuners. That's a lot.. but dual tuners is very intriguing to me.)
     
  4. Jul 27, 2006 #44 of 172
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    As I understand it, to get the $12.95 (or $6.95 if this is a second or third tivo) you have to commit to another year with tivo. So it might be like cell phones where people are willing to pay a bit more to avoid the commitment? I dunno. I decided to grab one because i know I'll be with my current set-up for at least another year. Beyond that, not sure, so the multi-year deals aren't my cuppa tea.

    Like Zeo, I will have to babysit some toddlers. . .
     
  5. Jul 27, 2006 #45 of 172
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    I do not mind at all comitting to TiVo for another year after the first. Seems morethan reasonable to me, and something I would do anyway.
     
  6. Jul 27, 2006 #46 of 172
    mattack

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    What is this referring to:
    "All information requested on the special landing page must be provided at the time of purchase."

    I know they also mention the landing page as the Tivo link in the first post in the thread. But what kind of extra info are they asking for?
     
  7. Jul 27, 2006 #47 of 172
    etemple

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    None as far as I can tell.
    There was no place to enter a membership number or any additional information at any point in the process.

    And comparing the confirmation printout from the mops deal with the confirmation printout on the regular tivo purchase, the only difference is the price.
     
  8. Jul 28, 2006 #48 of 172
    Dan203

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    You will only get service at $6.95 a month price if you already have a lifetime TiVo or a TiVo for which you're paying full price.

    If you don't already have a TiVo this this is a smoking deal because for a retail unit it would be...

    $99 + ($12.95 x 12) = $254.40 for the first year

    and with this deal you pay a flat $155.60.

    Once that first year is up the second option will go to $12.95/mo, but at least you will have got a better deal on the first year.

    Dan
     
  9. Jul 28, 2006 #49 of 172
    supasta

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    But if you get this deal as a second unit, you are only paying $6.95 for the second year. So, it is still a great deal.
     
  10. Jul 28, 2006 #50 of 172
    Dan203

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    If you already have a TiVo then it's only slightly cheaper then what you'd get it for retail, but it's a whole lot simpler because you don't have to deal with the rebate.

    Dan
     
  11. Jul 28, 2006 #51 of 172
    supasta

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    Reading it over, it seems that with this deal, you get hte first year included, the second year at $19.99 OR if you do more than a year (ie 2 or 3 years) then you can get the MSD or the $12.95 plan.

    Man, I wish they would put these fine prints in english.

    I am also almost more tempted to just go to the store and get a second DT rather than this deal. There is not much of a difference, and there are no unanswered questions - like Do you own the box, how much after the first year, what if, etc, etc.
     
  12. Jul 28, 2006 #52 of 172
    Dan203

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    What it means is that if you continue on a month to month basis then you have to pay $19.95 a month. However if you call and comit to another year of service then you get switched to the regular rate which is either $12.95 or $6.95 if you have another TiVo and qualify for the MSD.

    You don't actually have to pay for that second year up front. You just have to commit to it, and if you cancle you'll be subject to the $150 termination fee. If you stick to the 19.95/mo plan you can cancle at any time without penalty.

    Dan
     
  13. Jul 28, 2006 #53 of 172
    c3

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    You must have read the FW thread to be concerned about owning/renting. You always own the box. There is no such thing as TiVo rental plan.

    It's very simple. You pay $155.40 for the box and 1 year of service. Period.

    After the 1st year, you can:
    1. Cancel right away.
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    2. Continue with month-to-month at $19.95. Cancel at any time.
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    3. Sign up for the service-only plan with 1-year commitment, which is currently $12.95 or $6.95.
     
  14. Jul 28, 2006 #54 of 172
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    Sorry for being a little dense. If take the MOPS deal, in year 2, do I ge my multi service discount of 6.95. Are you sure of that? I thought with these new bundled plans they don't honor the MSD.
     
  15. Jul 28, 2006 #55 of 172
    rdlaub

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    I already have a lifetime tivo so I assumed I would get $6.95 on the next one I bought. So, I am still trying to clarify whether this would qualify for the 6.95 once the first year is up.
     
  16. Jul 28, 2006 #56 of 172
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    I called the sales department to see if my free refurb 80/hr had already shipped and it's on its way.. So now I have to refuse delivery of THAT unit and order the MOPS unit (same unit)... TIVO tells me that I can't just get the new deal with a little "paper swap". Seems like a huge waste to me, but it's going to save me $72. A big thanks to whoever posted the MOPS deal!!!


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  17. Jul 28, 2006 #57 of 172
    Dan203

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    Yes. But in order for that to happen you have to call TiVo and have them switch it, and in doing so commit to another year of service.

    Dan
     
  18. Jul 28, 2006 #58 of 172
    dig_duggler

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    You must have read the FW thread to be concerned about owning/renting. You always own the box. There is no such thing as TiVo rental plan.

    Okay, maybe I'm just touchy, but there is essentially such a thing in the package plan. If you go with a monthly package deal and default early then :

    # Early termination fee up to $200 applies if canceled prior to commitment end date, except as permitted by 30 day Money Back Guarantee.

    It's more of a lease to own. Also, although people are getting conflicting reports from csr's, the terms and conditions indicate you have to continue on a service plan, or you might be in default of the terms and conditions of the tivo package program.
     
  19. Jul 28, 2006 #59 of 172
    Montain

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    Stay away from this deal if you don't want to pay 19.95/ month after a year!

    I just called customer support. They had no idea what the special is or what the fine print means for sure. They transfered me to the sales phone number. They said they don't know anything for sure and they are the last to hear from "corporate", and I should call customer service. I called customer service back. They were finally able to bring up the webpage showing the deal (after saying it was a deal for a refurbed unit). Then they told me that the fine print meant that I was only paying for the service for the first year. Then I was going to have to pay 19.95 for the next year in order to actually pay for the box. They said that the price could be lower if I extended paying the box off over 2 or 3 years. This opinion was different than what the other reps had "guessed", so I asked if he was 100% sure, in light of the fact that it says I can pay the "Service Only Payment Plan price for a longer commitment term", and he talked to a co-worker at his desk and said 100% sure. He told me it was like buying a car or something.

    My wife actually received this offer in the email, but we are just more irritated than happy with this "special" at this point. What a black eye for Tivo from an otherwise happy customer.
     
  20. Jul 28, 2006 #60 of 172
    Dan203

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    If you read the rest of this thread you will see that this is not true! All you have to do is wait until the year is up, then call TiVo switch to their normal service plan. By doing this you will be comitting to another year of service, but the monthly rate will only be $12.95 or $6.95 depending on whether or not you qualify for the MSD.

    Dan
     

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