Bolts out of stock at Amazon!

Discussion in 'TiVo Bolt DVR/Streamer' started by HarperVision, Oct 4, 2015.

  1. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

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    Yep remember that post also. But even if sales are good/ok through Christmas I would still expect to see something happen next spring to keep things moving. Still interested to see what they do if/when they release an OTA only unit.
     
  2. Jed1

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    You have to realize that most of the patent lawsuit money is going into a stock buy back program. This brings up the most important point is TiVo is a publically traded company so many things can happen if the Bolt does not meet expectations. Maybe Arris will buy them up and discontinue the retail unit like they did with Moxi.

    I just remembered that you asked me if I was a glass half empty guy. I am a realist and you have to measure where TiVo was to where TiVo is right now. The real answer is their glass is three quarters of the way empty and it is still emptying out as it relates to their retail subscriber base.
    If TiVo can not reverse this trend now then there is no point in going forward, so that means it will be over. These are Ira's words not mine. TiVo has monumental uphill battle in front of them and I believe we will know come spring when they report their Christmas season numbers.
     
  3. Jed1

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    That is what I am waiting for. I would buy a Bolt now but I can not swing it financially. If sales are poor when they report next spring I will not buy in and I may look to sell my two units before the bad news hits.
     
  4. tarheelblue32

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    Possibly.

    I said that for TiVo to survive long term, they have to turn around the retail business. But as long as the patent licensing business keeps them going, there is no reason to just give up. I certainly don't think they would just abandon retail next year if Bolt sales aren't great. They will continue on until at least 2018 or until they are bought out by another company and stripped for parts, whichever comes first. But as long as TiVo remains intact as a company and the retail side is adding to their bottom line, they will keep going with it.
     
  5. atmuscarella

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    Ya I guess they could stop selling new units but they would have to continue to deal with existing units for an extended period of time, unless the company was in a full liquidation bankruptcy.
     
  6. mjcxp

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    You make a good point. Yearly is probably the best bet since their patents are expiring. I really don't want to get stuck with a $1k paper weight.
     
  7. tarheelblue32

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    People have been worrying about that for 15 years. But with TiVo raising the price on lifetime, it really isn't worth it anymore anyways. I will say though that if TiVo didn't believe in its long-term survival, then it probably wouldn't be discouraging lifetime and pushing the annual service so hard. If TiVo though they would only be around another year or two, they would want as much lifetime money up front as they could get.
     
  8. MarkSFCA

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    It's back in stock at Amazon but the stock is coming from "weaKness DVR superstore"
     
  9. tarheelblue32

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    Yeah that doesn't really count. It's still "Temporarily out of stock." from Amazon.
     
  10. Jrr6415sun

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    so did amazon ship any bolts yet to anyone here?

    It's really not a good sign that it's still temporarily out of stock.
     
  11. GIXX1300

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    Was about to pull the trigger until they told me $600 for lifetime or excuse me, "all in one". :eek:
     
  12. MikeBear

    MikeBear Letting my mind wander, luring it back with candy.

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    All Tivo needs to do, is come up with the "all in one" Holy Grail unit that many people seem to want. Something like a Tivo dvr, including the full capabilities of a Roku 3or 4, AND some sort of OTT setup, say SlingTV style. If they could do that, they'd be selling these things hand over fist...

    They'd make so much money, they wouldn't have to worry anymore.
     
  13. Jrr6415sun

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    But they don't have games like Apple TV, roku, Amazon Fire, and Xbox/ps4 do.

    It looks like Xbox is the closest to becoming the go to all in one machine when it adds a dvr soon
     
  14. krkaufman

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    It'll be a handy utility for some existing Xbox One users, but I wouldn't be too concerned if I were TiVo, until MS can ramp-up the number of tuners. It's more than a novelty, I'd say, but not a threat as a TiVo DVR replacement.
     
  15. aaronwt

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    WHy would I want that? I can get a ROku if I want something with all those apps. Plus it would cost too much for all that. Sales would really tank because the price would be even higher than now.
     
  16. aaronwt

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    Except that the XBOne audio is still borked. It has been that way since launch and AFAIK it still is. Although I just got the Win10 update on my XBOnes so I supposed it's possible they may have finally fixed it. I have not checked yet. But the XBOne is one of the last boxes I want to use for any of that stuff because the surround audio is mapped to the wrong channels. It is very annoying when audio that should be coming from the side surrounds is coming from the rear surrounds instead.
     
  17. krkaufman

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    I think the key is to do "enough" rather than "everything," and do enough quite well.

    TiVo's on track to "enough," but could use a few additional features and fine-tuning of past enhancements. (edit: Ideally, TiVo can position themselves with a superior set of features, so when a new security mechanism comes to replace CableCARD, they'll be able to market their solution to both cable *and* satellite customers. Being limited to cable customers hasn't helped TiVo's bottom line.)
     
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  18. atmuscarella

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    Ya got to love all of us. We want a super device that does it all, that works exactly like we want it to, and of course is cheap or better yet they pay us to use. And we are not afraid to tell TiVo just how simple that should be, with lots of posts in many threads. Come on TiVo don't worry about being profitable give me more for less, whats the matter with ya?! :rolleyes:
     
  19. lessd

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    AW come on with the (profit) TiVo is making of course people feel that way :D
     
  20. tarheelblue32

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