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Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by pfiagra, May 22, 2020.
TiVo BOLT VOX for cable | One device for all your live, recorded and streaming TV
I know. But then scroll down to the bottom of that same page you linked and click where it says "TiVo Comparison Chart" and you get this:
I think there must be 2 models of the 1 TB Cable-Only Bolt Vox. What's not clear is which one is on sale? As I posted earlier, the TiVo rep via chat said 4-tuner.
I don't think that info is correct. Besides the number of tuners, the no built-in MoCA is also wrong.
Since at least the Roamio, the cable-only model had six tuners because of the tuner configuration. The OTA or OTA/cable tuner is a four tuner model. The difference between the OTA and OTA/cable models is that the OTA only model had the cable card bracket removed. That’s why a bunch of people would buy the OTA and then install their own cable card bracket.
You are probably right. But it's their own damn web page of product info. Can't they get it straight?
Yes, the TiVo product page. Says 2 different things.
I’ve had a roamio since it was released and it’s starting to show its age. I‘ve has the all in for about 4 years now. I’m tempted to go with the all in on the 500 gig TiVo bolt. Is this a good deal?
Thanks, yep--I was trying to be a bit sarcastic. TiVo marketing has been known to be inconsistent.
Ha ha, gotcha Just wanted to make sure I didn't come across that TiVoCommunity was wrong. I trust this site better than the actual TiVo site for info.
I’m tempted to get the 500GB version to get the option for OTA but my 6-tuner Roamio is chugging along fine.
Plus my antenna is located at my non-4k set so the Bolt would go under for that.
Wish the 4k mini was on sale.
In the past the Bolt models (at least the white ones), were 500GB and 1TB 4 tuner OTA/Cable. 3TB (black) was 6 tuner cable only. Not sure if any of the black Vox models was a 4 tuner 1TB device, if so anyone know a model number? I'm going to guess the 1TB being sold now is the 6 tuner cable only. I think ALL cable only Tivos from Roamio and up are 6 tuners. Definitely conflicting info, both on the website and the chat. I think the only Bolt/Vox that does not have built in Moca is the OTA only model though I could be wrong.
Best deal in a long time!
I’ve got an old Roamio 500 gb it seems to be running mostly fine on The old TE3 interface, no ads; does what it should. If I upgrade would I get ads? I’ve heard on TE4 I would, that is why we haven’t upgraded the software.
I’m tempted because the wife loves the TiVo and I can’t get her to go tablo or recast. A new bolt might get us 3-5 more years of TiVo for little cost (we’d sell the roamio on eBay and make back most of the 250 for all-in).
But it’s also possible with a few parts and babying the roamio is could last another 3-5? I maybe overestimating their hardware...
Here’s an old post from Ted mentioning the 6-tuner, 1TB bolt.
TiVo BOLT VOX 3TB out of stock?
If you buy the Bolt OTA it is TE4 only I think. The regular Vox, TE3 or TE4 (you'd probably have to roll back to TE3, probably comes with TE4 installed). Yes, you would get the preroll ads with TE4. You might be able to opt out since you are a current Tivo customer. But maybe not since a new device, you'd have to ask them.
I'm not sure why you think the Roamio needs to be babied whatever that means. It's just plugged in doing it's thing. The part that would normally wear out would be the hard drive. But the Roamio uses a 3.5" drive, pretty reliable and easy/cheap to replace or upgrade. The Bolt uses 2.5, not as reliable, more expensive and very few size options. While the deal not bad, especially for someone who does not have a Tivo, for someone who has a perfectly functioning Roamio I'd keep the Roamio. I am a bit prejudiced, I like the Roamios, easy to upgrade/work with and reliable. And I mostly just use them for DVR function.
Oh, Tivo does have a 30 day return policy. So if you buy one you could try it for 30 days. I would keep the Roamio for at least the 30 days. I think lifetime "basic/500GB" Roamios go for $150-200 at ebay, fees and shipping need to be paid by seller also.
I bought and rolled back a Bolt Vox to TE3 as recently as March.
I agree with you regarding the Roamio. So far, solid as a rock and both on TE3. I have a self-upgraded 3TB Plus that's been running since 2015 and a Pro since 2017. Last year, we decided we didn't need the 2nd cable card and 12 tuners to feed the rest of the household, so I disconnected the Pro and just have it sitting on the shelf as a backup. I fire it up every 6 months or so for updates.
I don't stream any apps at all through the TiVos or Minis since Xfinity killed off the app. I just have Rokus and Apple TVs on every TV now. Not a big deal to hit the input button when needed.
While the Edge seems to be the better box compared to the Bolt, I don't want the Edge since it's locked to TE4. I'm only considering the Vox deal which I'd roll back to TE3 (assuming it's a 6-tuner...I know I've beat that to death) which would be $450 + tax and then sell off my 5-year Roamio to recoup some cost. Or maybe just say hell with any more TiVo upgrades all together and ride out both Roamios until the Plus and backup both die or Xfinity kills cable cards all together and cave to X1 or YouTubeTV or whatever. Wife hates change and we've had a DirecTV or cable TiVo for 19 years so I need a backup box just in case
That is my philosophy. IMO all Tivo DVRs as currently being sold are near obsolete (as far as cable cards/ATSC 3.0, they are STILL the best DVR out there IMO) If I find a bargain on a lifetime machine (Roamio, Bolt/Vox or Edge) for under $200 I might spring for one. Heck maybe $250 for an Edge Lifetime only.
Yep, the Bolt OTA is TE4 only; likewise, the Edge box.
As to opting out of TE4 pre-roll ads, I've never heard, here, of TiVo denying an opt-out request from anyone. (Having said that, I seem to recall that when TiVo_Ted first mentioned opt-out requests here, he did say that TiVo would look at various factors in considering a request--he didn't state it as a certainty that it more has seemed to have become. But that also could have been to prevent the option of opt-out requests from going viral.)
Also, just to mention it: even if one opts out of the TiVo TE4 pre-roll ads, the TiVo+ service line insertions to the TiVo Guide, which many people seem to detest, will remain--there is no way to opt out of those.