Bolt hard drive upgrade

Discussion in 'TiVo Bolt DVR/Streamer' started by texasPI, Feb 19, 2019.

  1. tommage1

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    It appears this is a WD Black Friday deal really. So can get direct from WD for the $190. Newegg and Amazon are matching it. They also have the 8TB Red Plus for $150. Also something at WD website about signing up for newsletter, 10% off next purchase. So maybe could sign up in advance and get 10% off the $190 10TB or the $150 8TB? That would be a great deal, close to shucking prices for retail drives.
     
  2. gsutkin

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    Oops - I pulled the trigger too soon on the Purple drive. That's a really good deal!
     
  3. tommage1

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    It is a good deal, you could always buy the Red and return the Purple? I guess much depends on where you ordered the Purple from, you mentioned Walmart, if it's actually sold by Walmart you could easily return (even take to a store). However if a 3rd party seller selling THROUGH Walmart maybe not as easy............... Up to you, either will work ;)

    Oops, looks like sale is over, they raised price to $242..............
     
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  4. gsutkin

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    I saw that too. And it is a third-party seller.
    Well, good news is my 2nd sabrent enclosure arrived. I'll be "mscopying" soon!
     
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  5. WVZR1

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    How about some snapshots of this one before you start? Internals etc.
     
  6. tommage1

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    Good show. Since you've done it once this should be a piece of cake ;) Do keep in mind, you don't have to cut the Bolt case, can just use those shims like I did.

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  7. WVZR1

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    I've interest in doing this modification for my Bolt but I've had questions regarding 'power'. I see where @Dan203 had interest back in 9/16 but I didn't see it discussed.

    I've had thoughts similar to Dan before considering the modification to my Bolt using an external enclosure. I stumbled upon this question being asked a few years ago but didn't see much conversation. My external drive enclosure and Tivo would be both powered from same BackUPS but that doesn't do anything to disqualify the interest in 'asking'.

     
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  8. gsutkin

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    WVZR1,

    That's a good question about the power. If I ever power down my upgraded Bolt, I always power back on the external drive before powering on the Tivo again. I would assume powering on the TiVo without a drive would give you 4 flashing lights, and you would safely be able to start over (drive first, tivo second). Has anyone had experience with this?

    Btw, lots of us have snapshots here that include the Saberent internals - see my post #115.
     
  9. WVZR1

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    None in your #115 post show the particulars of the External. I don't/didn't see anything anywhere else that wasn't a 'during' the modification.
     
  10. tommage1

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    I don't want to open the External again (my SATA connection is tenuous), but for my next project, I'll take more pictures.
     
  12. UCLABB

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    I have both the tivo and the drive on an ups. If I have to power down the tivo, I put it to sleep first, pull power to it then pull power to drive. Not sure if all that is necessary.
     
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  13. tommage1

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    Exactly the way I do it. Even if not necessary logic dictates that is the best way to do it. I did screw up once, put the Tivo to sleep but forgot to unplug it. So ended up powering down the drive before powering down the Tivo. Did not cause any issues I am aware of.
     
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    Would be a personal choice. But from what I see the majority have the one piece Sata connection only. So can't do separate data and power connection. Also this one has an Esata port for those who want to try Sata to Esata instead of Sata to Sata. This one is inexpensive, high quality (metal), has a fan, good amount of room inside. For me ideal (heck could even attach an IDE drive if ever needed), maybe there are other enclosures as good or even better but finding one might not be easy. I don't know of any reason to AVOID this one.
     
  16. bricco

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    Silly question. I promise to hide after this. But can you use either a 2.5 or 3.5 in a Bolt? I see both being mentioned. I swapped a hard drive in a Roamio and I’m feeling brave. Which basic 1 TB drive do you recommend to put in a 500 GB 4-tuner Bolt? Don’t need it to be any bigger than that as I will just use for live TV and news recordings. Thanks.
     
  17. UCLABB

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    A 3.5" drive will not fit in a Bolt, thus if you want to use one, it has to reside outside the box.
    If you put a new drive in a Bolt you will need to re-pair the cable card with your cable provider if you have cable. Didn't need to do that with a Roamio.
     
  18. tommage1

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    WD 2.5 Red Plus 1TB. WD10JFCX, it is a CMR drive. Very important you use a CMR drive, many/most 1TB 2.5" are SMR, not good for Tivos.

    Actually just WD10JFCX is fine. WD did some renaming recently so it's currently called Red Plus. But any WD10JFCX will do, same drive.
     
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    Can I easily just remove the IDE Ribbon from the board? Might seem like silly/foolish question but it seems it would create space in the enclosure. In most images I see included in most threads the 'ribbon' seems to still be present.

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    It was very easy. The IDE ribbon is just pressed over the pins and the protective cover just snaps on. It's exactly how I suspected but thought 'best to ask'. SATA power cable chains are fabricated similarly. 2d image is pins, ribbon & retainer. Simple snap off. Removed one switch wire to gain access.

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  20. gsutkin

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    Great suggestion! I am upgrading my 2nd Bolt (from a functional 3TB MQ03ABB300 to a 10TB WD102PURZ), using the same equipment I used previously, and I also removed the IDE ribbon. Now I'll have more room to wind the SATA cable to connect to the new hard drive. Here are my pictures with the ribbon freshly removed (I also found it easier to temporarily disconnect the switch wire) and with the protective cover replaced.


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    (note in the 2nd picture I'm showing the detached ribbon - I'll throw it away)

    Btw, here is the open Bolt, with the 2.5" hard drive removed, and the new SATA cable attached:

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    MSFcopy currently transferring content. I'll hook it up soon and post my results on the MFS Tools 3.2 thread.
     

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