Bolt hard drive upgrade

Discussion in 'TiVo Bolt DVR/Streamer' started by texasPI, Feb 19, 2019.

  1. gsutkin

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    The plastic broke off of the hard drive itself, right where the SATA data cable inserts. It made it so the SATA data cable could easily slip off. If you look at the picture in post #116, it’s right where the SATA connector inserts into the hard drive. Look south of the connection and you’ll see a tiny triangle of plastic missing.

    thanks about not putting in other drives. I think I’d have to be hard pressed to ever open the enclosure again now that it’s working.
     
  2. gsutkin

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    Does it matter if the enclosure/drive sits flat or on its side? I currently have it in the stand so you can see the fan opening and read “Sabrent”
     
  3. tommage1

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    Fortunate more did not break off, drive might have become unusable. Yeah once up and running no reason to take apart, certainly not to try other drives. With a new Purple inside could last 5 years or more, perhaps beyond cable card support or even Tivo staying in business. As for enclosure, should not matter how positioned. Flat, on side, or even up and down. Though I would not put flat with fan side down ;)
     
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  4. tommage1

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    One more thing about the Sata data cable that connects to the drive inside the enclosure. I have noticed all Sata cables are not the same, some are really heavy duty/stiff, others are a bit more flexible. So one of the more flexible ones might be better for this purpose since bending to fit inside the enclosure. I felt mine, it is pretty thin and flexible. Also might consider one of the 90 degree angle connections to the drive. With a straight connection it starts off heading towards the back of the enclosure. The have to do a pretty drastic bend to get it to come back towards the front of the enclosure. With 90 degree (choose the correct direction, they come in right and left directions, I THINK the one in my picture is left), the cable would be going up towards the bend right away instead of starting towards the back and needing the really drastic bend. You may be just fine with what you have though.

    Check picture for example.

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    I think the other end of the Sata data cable coming out of your enclosure is male. I could not find a 90 degree left on one end to male on the other end. However I did find 90 degree left to femaie and a male to male Sata so could connect and be able to separate the cable coming out of Bolt to cable coming out of enclosure.

    7 Pin SATA 90 Degree Left Angle to Straight 7 Pin Cable 20 Inches 794504813449 | eBay

    SATA Cable with Male to Male Connections - 7 Pin 705105128757 | eBay

    Or this for male to male Sata

    7pin SATA 3.0 male to male port adapter Staight Angle SATA 6Gbps Convertor card | eBay
     
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  5. WVZR1

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    There's several orientations for SATA connector and also round vs 'flat' cable so very dependent I'd say on the enclosure the SATA cable might be the last purchase. Get enclosure, fit HDD and determine then what might be most appropriate routing and cable.

    *** I believe that connector 'gender' is determined by the terminals vs the connector shell. There's I believe an adapter that could be used on the HDD itself to maybe aid orientation.
     
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  6. WVZR1

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    There are SATA cables with 'latch feature' - maybe that would make your connection to HDD more secure. I've never had a hands on but maybe others have. Does it matter which side of the HDD is up. If that doesn't matter it could make for more connector options I'd think.
     
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  7. gsutkin

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    All good advice. My cable is flexible enough that it would twist multiple ways to be able to wrap around the back of the enclosure, then around the drive, and exit the way I wanted it to.
    For my next one, I am going to have a few cables, and use the one that will fit the drive the best with the least amount of tension. I am excited to try a 90 degree connection.
    The key will be to thread it first, get it in place, and connect it last.
    I think I am very fortunate that I didn’t make that drive unusable.
     
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    Latch feature would be good - I’ll search for that next time. I assumed it didn’t matter which way the HDD label went (it’s on its side now anyway), and flipping it allowed me to place the cable with the least amount of tension.
     
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  10. tommage1

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    Yeah, I got one of those too. Most have the one piece Sata connection but I guess some don't. Does your have a model number? The one I got that does not require the adapter was used and does not have a model number.
     
  11. Mathelo

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    All I have for a model number is what I believe everyone has been using, EC-UEIS7. I bought it on eBay from mr.sales99. The number on the card in the box is
    BS-S35A-20337-E5 2010/04/27 IMG_2081.JPEG
     
  12. tommage1

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    Hmm, could not find current or sold items by that seller that match the enclosure you bought. The one you got, it also has IDE connections inside and an Esata port on the outside?
     
  13. Mathelo

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    Yep
     
  14. tommage1

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    That sounds like one of the ones I have. Maybe same model number but slight variation on the Sata connections inside. Obviously I prefer the separate Sata connections, avoid the adapter for the Tivo upgrade. Thanks.
     
  15. gsutkin

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    My next TiVo to upgrade will be my other Bolt, that was upgraded to a 3TB 2.5 inch drive at purchase. Bolt and drive are both 3 years old and working fine, but I don’t have much faith in those small drives lasting much longer. 

    What would be an ideal 10TB drive? I would love to go purple again, and they are available Newegg and Walmart for about $240. But they spin at 7200. Isn’t that too hot?
     
  16. tommage1

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    Seems WD is playing with the purple line now too. Not changing some to SMR like they did with the reds. But now some that were 5400RPM are now 7200RPM. Maybe you can find the previous model, maybe it was WD100PURZ. Seems they played with speeds on the 8TB and up. So now the WD101PURZ would be 5400RPM and WD102PURZ would be 7200RPM? Getting too wacky for me ;)
     
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    If newegg is correct, then WD100PURZ is the only 10TB purple that is 5400. No indication if it is CMR, but the reviews are good. I am happy with my 6TB purple drive on the other Bolt.
     
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    I just found out about this change yesterday. And yes, I see some people selling WD101PURZ and WD102PURZ and both list as 7200RPM. Which makes no sense to me as seems they would be the same drive. Either sellers are making a mistake in listings (possible) or I am confused. WD website does not even list WD101PURZ as a current drive, only the WD102PURZ. I may have to stop making drive recommendations as WD keeps changing things, or maybe use Seagate for specialty firmware drives.
     
  19. gsutkin

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    Ok - I'm going to purchase the WD100PURZ from Walmart: $243.
     
  20. tommage1

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    Just FYI Newegg has a Black Friday sale on a Red Plus (which is CMR) 10TB for $189. Pretty good deal I think, though I normally (used to) recommend Purples this will work and could save you some $. One day only though so you'd have to move fast. It's 5400RPM also which is good.

    WD Red Plus 10TB NAS Hard Disk Drive 5400 RPM 3.5" - Newegg.com
     

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