Bolt hard drive upgrade

Discussion in 'TiVo Bolt DVR/Streamer' started by texasPI, Feb 19, 2019.

  1. Oct 28, 2020 #81 of 158
    tommage1

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    Well what OS are you running, TE3 or TE4? If TE4 you won't have to hook up to a computer, will format itself (assuming you are starting fresh). If TE3 will format up to 3TB, would have to hookup to computer to get the rest.
     
  2. Oct 29, 2020 #82 of 158
    gsutkin

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    TE3. What is the physical hookup between the drive and the computer? And does it have to be a desktop computer? years ago I formatted a drive this way - it wasn't too complex, but I would need some instructions
     
  3. Oct 29, 2020 #83 of 158
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    Hard drive cable for tivo community.jpg I have this cable from back then. Will it work?
     
  4. Oct 29, 2020 #84 of 158
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    That is an IDE cable, will not work. As I mentioned if you were running TE4 you would not have to hookup to computer at all. TE3 you would if you use over 3TB. For instructions on how to do that I suggest posting in the "upgrade" thread. Multiple ways to do it depending on what computer you are going to use, how you are going to hookup etc, direct to motherboard, in enclosure, USB............. And you will need to download some software and burn to CD/DVD or install to a bootable USB drive. It's not that difficult but best to ask in the upgrade thread. Again, over or under 3TB (any size really) with TE4 no computer needed, over 3TB with TE3 things need to be done (would be the same with internal drive over 3TB also also). The parts needed for the hardware part of the upgrade should be enough for the software process also, though may need a USB flash drive if you don't have a CD/DVD burner.
     
  5. Oct 29, 2020 #85 of 158
    gsutkin

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    Thanks. I am TE3 and would like to format a 6TB drive, so I will post to the upgrade thread.

    Is this the right External station? I couldn't find the exact model you used.
    https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Exte...17292&sprefix=Sabrent+EC-UEIS7,aps,226&sr=8-4
     
  6. Oct 29, 2020 #86 of 158
    gsutkin

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    I believe this is the most recent Upgrade thread. Can anyone direct me to a description of how to format a 6TB WD purple 3.5 inch hard drive? Can I do it using my laptop and a USB connection? Or do I need to open a desktop computer?
    Thanks
     
  7. Oct 30, 2020 #87 of 158
    tommage1

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    This is the upgrade forum. Read about MFS Tools and MFSR.

    TiVo Upgrade Center

    And this is the enclosure. I would not vary on the enclosure, some other models may work, some may not, need to be able to hookup data and power to drive separately. Might be sold out at Amazon.

    Sabrent 3.5" USB 2.0/eSATA HDD Enclosure SATA/IDE with Cooling Fan (EC-UEIS7) 689744911607 | eBay

    This is the molex to Sata adapter for the power connection to the drive inside the enclosure. Or similar, check the picture.

    SATA Power Female to Molex Male Adapter Converter Cable, 6-Inch | eBay

    Or this, 2 pack.

    2X New IDE/Molex 4-Pin Male To Serial ATA SATA 15-Pin Female Power Adapter Cable 69462703881 | eBay

    Other than drive, the enclosure and the molex to Sata adapter cable you will need two more cables, one will run out of the Bolt, one out of the enclosure. They will connect in the middle so you can separate the Bolt from the enclosure. Enclosure data cable will be normal/female Sata connection on one end (connects to drive), male Sata on the other. Cable coming out of the Bolt will be 90 degree female Sata data connection on one end (connects to Bolt motherboard, 90 degree so can close up Bolt when done), female Sata data connection (standard) on the other. Look at my upgrade thread pictures for approximate lengths needed.
     
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  8. Oct 30, 2020 #88 of 158
    gsutkin

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    Thanks!
     
  9. Oct 31, 2020 #89 of 158
    gsutkin

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    Regarding the enclosure, does it matter that it’s USB 2.0? eBay also has a USB 3.0 version:
    USB 3.0 SATA III External 3.5" HDD Hard Drive Enclosure Case Box Plug&Play | eBay

    Amazon has a sabrent USB 3.0 brand:
    Sabrent USB 3.0 to SATA External Hard Drive Lay-Flat Docking Station with Built-in Cooling Fan for 2.5 or 3.5in HDD, SSD [Support UASP and 6TB] (EC-DFFN)
    by Store4PC
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013WODZH0/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_B5vNFb3KSBDJD

    and does this look like the right data cable for the enclosure?
    NSI LK-13526 7-pin internal SATA Male to SATA Female Extension cable - 7 pin SATA M/F - 20 inch (50 cm)
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003WFBFZY/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_-jwNFb9QXQT1X

    Thanks for all of the help
     
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  10. Nov 1, 2020 #90 of 158
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    Enclosure, external connections do not matter as not using them. Specs do not matter either. Enclosure only used to hold and power drive. Again, I suggest using the one I used as there are hundreds of others, not all will have room and internal connections that will allow connecting data and power to drive separately. I cannot answer for any enclosure other than the one I used. Most will NOT work as they have one part connections to the drive.

    That looks like correct cable. 20" might be a bit long (will still work) but those are the correct connections.
     
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  11. Nov 1, 2020 #91 of 158
    gsutkin

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    You were right about the specificity of the enclosure. The Sabrent USB 3.0 model I ordered from Amazon does not have a SATA port and is not popping up my new WD60PURZ.

    I've ordered the one you suggested off ebay.
     
  12. Nov 2, 2020 #92 of 158
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    You could take a picture of what you have purchased so far. The drive should be fine (Purple), the enclosure should be fine once the correct one arrives. So you need the 3 cables.
     
  13. Nov 3, 2020 #93 of 158
    gsutkin

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    Here is what I have so far. I looked at your pictures and Mukwonago’s pictures in the TE4 Bolt Upgrade with External Drive thread. Do I need a drive power supply, or is power supplied by the enclosure? (eBay delivering it Saturday)

    upload_2020-11-3_8-51-59.jpeg

    I am also posting in the MFS Tools 3.2 thread. My old drive is being cloned to a new WD 3TB temporary drive, and I would like to boot it in the Bolt before cloning that to the new 6TB purple drive. Can I do that without the enclosure or a power adapter?
     
  14. Nov 3, 2020 #94 of 158
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    You need EITHER a power supply or an enclosure. I went with a just a power supply and the gear in that picture as I already had that laying around. Tommage told me that you cannot clone the smaller capacity drive to a larger one and expect to save content on a Bolt. I wish it were so.
     
  15. Nov 3, 2020 #95 of 158
    tommage1

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    Well not quite, you can probably copy and expand to a new larger drive. However you cannot keep the old drive as a backup.
     
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  16. Nov 3, 2020 #96 of 158
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    No, one or the other, looks like you have what you need, just wait for the enclosure to arrive and use it to power the drive.
     
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    poppagene

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    Yes a s long as you already have the 4pin to sata adapter
     
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  19. Nov 3, 2020 #99 of 158
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    Not sure how well that might work. SATA power also carries 3.3 volts which doesn't exist on the 4 pin Molex connector. Not clear how commonly 3.3 volts is actually used on current SATA drives.

    If I were in his shoes, I'd get something that has a proper SATA power connector (and hopefully supports all voltages) to begin with.
     
  20. Nov 3, 2020 #100 of 158
    poppagene

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    Most sata hdds (including this one) do not use the 3V orange line (which is what's missing here).
     

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