Bolt hard drive upgrade

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  1. Sep 29, 2020 #61 of 158
    Royster

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    Well, I popped in a new drive and the 4 flashing lights came back on.
     
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  3. Sep 30, 2020 #63 of 158
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    Once you connect the new HD, how long does it take the Bolt+ to format it? Hours?
     
  4. Sep 30, 2020 #64 of 158
    kpeters59

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    My understanding is that it should only take a few minutes to reformat the new drive.

    -KP
     
  5. Oct 9, 2020 #65 of 158
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    Just finished installing the 2TB drive recommended in post #47 of this discussion into my Bolt. Easy replacement. About a half hour to go through The guided setup (slowly) and start watching.

    EDIT - It looks like I lost the pairing between the cable card and the Bolt. The fun begins trying to get my provider (Optimum) to address this.

    UPDATE - After about 8 calls to Optimum and TiVo, I was able to get an Optimum rep to bind my card. FYI - TiVo brings in Optimum’s “Advanced Technical Department” reps to a 3-way call. They finally told me straight up that they cannot bind the card. It was a regular CSR at the 800 support number that did it. The strategy I used was to ask at the start of the conversation if the person I’m speaking with can “bind my cable card to my TiVo”. If they say anything but “sure” or “no problem”, hang up and call right back to speak with someone else.
     
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  6. Oct 26, 2020 #66 of 158
    gsutkin

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    What 3TB drive would you recommend today for a Bolt+?

    I just got the 4 flashing lights. Not willing to upgrade to TE4.
     
  7. Oct 27, 2020 #67 of 158
    tommage1

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    CMR drives are recommended for Tivos, will work with both TE3 and TE4. There are no current model 2.5" 3TB CMR drives. There is an older model Toshiba 3TB CMR 2.5 drive but not easy to find and usually WAY overpriced. The 2TB model of that Toshiba is available at a great price right now, hit and miss when in or out of stock. Or if you go external there are lots of options but some work, buying parts etc.

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07J27MBWD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Or if you can live with 1 TB the WD 2.5" Red or Red Plus WD10JFCX. It's a current model. With TE3 there are some SMR drives that may work, just not the best choice IMO. And some SMR that work with TE3 will not work with TE4 in case you ever want or have to switch. I personally like a drive that works with either.
     
  8. Oct 27, 2020 #68 of 158
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    GOOGLE the model number, space, SMR
     
  10. Oct 27, 2020 #70 of 158
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    Well there is the rub, not always easy. This site is good, they list a LOT of drives so may take awhile to find the one you are checking.

    The HDD Platter Capacity Database

    As I said no CURRENT model 2.5" CMR drives over 2TB, maybe 1TB is limit. So if this a current model it will be SMR.

    Edit, I checked, it is SMR.

    BarraCuda (5400RPM, 128MB cache, SATA-600 interface, Advanced Format, Shingled Magnetic Recording, 15mm z-height)

    ST3000LM024 3TB (4/8)
     
  11. Oct 27, 2020 #71 of 158
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    Yes, that is the 3TB discontinued model I mentioned in my first reply. The term PMR includes CMR and SMR now. So a drive listed as "PMR" could be SMR. Best to look for CMR. Old article (after all came out when the drive was released), it is CMR. Not a bad price for that model though way more than 3.5" CMR drive.

    MQ03ABBxxx (5400RPM, 16MB cache, SATA-600 interface, Advanced Format, 15mm z-height)

    The website I listed, it will say if a drive is SMR. If it does not say SMR (shingled magnetic recording) it should be CMR, won't say it specifically.
     
  13. Oct 27, 2020 #73 of 158
    tommage1

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    I see your retailer also has the MQ03ABB200 (2TB model of the same drive) new for $110. That is the one that I linked to at Amazon for $58.70? But the one at Amazon is refurbished so if cost not critical best to get new, your $142 for 3TB better than $110 for 2TB IMO.
     
  14. Oct 27, 2020 #74 of 158
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    Here is the 2TB version of the Toshiba: MQ04ABD200 from Amazon for $64.99. From what I can tell, it is CMR and new.

    Toshiba 2TB 5400RPM 16MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 2.5in 9.5MM Internal Notebook Hard Drive https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FBNJ8ZG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_YomMFbFYB6811?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

    I am still debating internal vs external drive. I have read many posts but can’t find the description of equipment to buy and cables to use to install the external drive. Does anyone have it?

    Thanks
     
  15. Oct 27, 2020 #75 of 158
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    A few options were mentioned is this thread. I haven’t tried it so I can’t say what works and what doesn’t.

    TE4 Bolt upgrade with external drive
     
  16. Oct 28, 2020 #76 of 158
    tommage1

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    Actually that is not the 2TB version of the Toshiba. Note the number, MQ04ABDxxx. The CMR 2TB version is MQ03ABBxxx. The 04ABD is SMR for sure, listed at that website I mentioned as SMR. It uses 1TB platters, largest CMR 2.5 drive platter is is 800GB (according to the person who runs that site, I asked them once).

    As for 3.5 external it's really very easy. The post right below your last post has link on how to do it (it is a thread I created). Since there are a lot of sub posts a lot to read. If you stick with what I used, including the EXACT model enclosure it will work. Enclosure, two Sata Cable variations, one IDE/molex to Sata power adapter and the drive itself of course. If you are going to try it I can provide a few more specifics for you.
     
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  17. Oct 28, 2020 #77 of 158
    gsutkin

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    Okay - I'm going to do the 3.5 external. If you don't mind, I'm going to run my purchases by you and the Community.

    As far as the HD goes, I read that many are going WD Red 3TB, and they seem easily available on Amazon:

    https://www.amazon.com/Red-6TB-Inte...3XVD1FP/dp/B07MYL7KVK/ref=dp_ob_title_ce?th=1

    I also read that some go for a higher capacity, like this 6TB version:

    https://www.amazon.com/Red-6TB-Internal-Hard-Drive-dp-B07MYL7KVK/dp/B07MYL7KVK/ref=dp_ob_title_ce

    Will either of these work?
     
  18. Oct 28, 2020 #78 of 158
    gsutkin

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    Looking further, I see WD red, red pro, red plus, and purple. How to choose?
     
  19. Oct 28, 2020 #79 of 158
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    Yeah, "Reds" have got complicated. Pro is overkill (and is 7200 RPM, would run hotter and not needed/recommended for Tivo), Plus is good, Red, well if model ends in EFAX you don't want (some 2-6TB models). I personally recommend Purple if you want WD.

    At least one of your links is to an EFAX, you DON"T want that one, it's SMR.
     
  20. Oct 28, 2020 #80 of 158
    gsutkin

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    Ok - then I'll go purple:
    https://www.amazon.com/Purple-4TB-S...1&keywords=wd+red+purpe&qid=1603932066&sr=8-2

    I am considering the 6TB. I read posts (yours, I think) about the expansion technique. How do you hook up a HD to a computer - what kind of SATA cable do I need?

    Thanks for all of the help
    Gary
     

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