Bolt Hard Drive Upgrade Choice

Discussion in 'TiVo Bolt DVR/Streamer' started by GregMacMan, Sep 25, 2017.

  1. HerronScott

    HerronScott Well-Known Member

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    And direct from WD. The one that I got from Amazon didn't qualify for the WD warranty as OEM in case that's important to someone.

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  2. LVKeith

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    At this point I will probably just get the 2tb from WD Direct. It is a bit more ($137) than the Amazon/Ebay prices (appx $100) but does include a 30 day return and 2 year warranty. Also shipping is free and no sales tax so it's really not that much more for me.

    On another topic, attached is a pic of the hard drive in my Bolt Vox which shows more differences from the original Bolt. As you can see there are NO clips on top of the drive for the wifi wire (which seems to be routed around the back) and the drive connector is blue rather than red in the original Bolt. As I mentioned in a prior post, all of the torx screws were different sizes (smaller) than those in the original Bolt. Vox HD.JPG
     
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  3. Sportsnut

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    Not sure if you and Tony T were responding to me but I was trying to find a 3TB version of the WD20NPVZ, it doesn't appear to exist on WDs website. I can't find any 3TB WD 2.5 inch hard drives, Blue, Red, Gold or any color. I'd rather get a WD than the Toshiba 3TB or a Seagate. Does anyone know what model is in the Bolt +?

    I guess it's this one that Weaknees is selling. Not sure why it doesn't show on WDs website. Too bad it's not available on Amazon like the old green drives were that I bought for the Roamio.
    WD30NPRZ 3TB 2.5" Western Digital Laptop Hard Drive - TiVo Part - WeaKnees - the DVR Superstore
     
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  4. aaronwt

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    If it's like the white Bolt you can just RIP it off. I've done it a couple dozen times with no damage. It's when putting the cover back on that I've been at risk to damage the tabs on the cover. But once I learned I could just quickly RIP off the cover it made things so much easier than trying to baby the cover to get it off.
     
  5. aaronwt

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    Later versions of the white Bolt included a channel in the plastic, under the drive, to run the wire. Although they still ran it on top of the hard drive with the tabs. With my last two Bolts I removed those plastic tabs from the hard drive and routed the wire through the channel like what should have been done when assembled.
     
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  6. Mush

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    WD Model WD20NPVZ vs WD20SPZX

    brand new here sorry if this redundant.
    It seems to me this newer drive (WD20SPZX) is much cheaper with more cache, and is thinner.

    Is this a matter of longevity, an NAS drive vs a piece of crap?


    So I've since seen the newer cheaper drive is SMR.
    It seems to reason a PMR drive is better suited to the throughput of watching recorded HD content while recording a couple of tuners of HD content.
     
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  7. jlb

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    I also have a question about ordering the WD20NPVZ direct from WD. I assume you order the one with the 128mb cache? I too may order direct for the warranty.... I’d prefer WD than sellers on Amazon, unless there is an amazon seller you all have had success with......


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  8. Mikeguy

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    I understand your reasoning, but I also feel most comfortable with the drive that users seem to have had the most experience, and successful experience, with.
     
  9. jlb

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    But isn’t this WD the one that people use the most, at least for 2TB or are you talking about the Tosh 3TB drive?


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  10. HerronScott

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    The 3TB that TiVo uses is the WD30NPRZ that Weaknees is selling. Unfortunately, it only appears to be available OEM and the few places that are selling it want a lot of money for it!

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  11. HerronScott

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    I think there is only the one version no matter where you get it from. I ordered from an Amazon seller, but the packaging was terrible and as I mentioned no warranty.

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  12. jlb

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    I figured out the confusion. It’s the selection method on WDCs website. You think you are looking at different versions of the same drive but you aren’t. The WD20NPVZ is 8mb cache. There is an option for 2tb with 128mb cache but that’s a totally different model. See the attached spec sheet I found. So the trick with WD’s site is to select the 2TB/8mb cache and that should be the NPVZ

    [​IMG]


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  13. HerronScott

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    Interesting, when I was looking last year they only had 1 2TB option which was the NPVZ model. I would be concerned that the newer thinner WD20SPZX model is SMR and I found at least one store that reported it was SMR.

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  15. aaronwt

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    wouldn't it be SMR with a height of only 7mm, and two, 1TB platters? While the NPVZ is 15mm, and uses four, 500GB platters.
     
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  16. HerronScott

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    I would think so but I haven't really kept up with hard drive design. :)

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  17. Joe01880

    Joe01880 I love my TiVo

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    I think failures may be related to heat. My Toshiba drive has been performing fine. (fingers crossed)
    I noticed right away with the new drive my Bolt got hot and stayed hot even in a very well ventilated cabinet.
    I picked up a under the laptop cooling fan, it runs off USB so I keep it plugged in to the Bolt itself, no heating problems since..
    Good luck..

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  18. NJChris

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    I do think heat has a lot to do with drive life/failures. I did take a risk and got one of the Seagate backup plus 4tb. I replaced the internal fan and have the laptop fan under it and have around 50-51 degrees.
     
  19. Tony_T

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    What was the temp before the upgrades? I'm getting 60°c stock in a fan ventilated cabinet.
     
  20. Joe01880

    Joe01880 I love my TiVo

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    My cabinet is somewhat open but doesn't have a fan other than the laptop fan the bolt sits on. The temp. was between 70 to 77, after adding the laptop fan, 60, sometimes below.

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