Bolt Hard Drive Upgrade Choice

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  1. Apr 2, 2020 #741 of 818
    Tony_T

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    AFAIK, the 2.5 inch is only available in 1T
     
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  2. Apr 2, 2020 #742 of 818
    zubinh

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    Yup You're right, only 1TB...:( Need at least 2TB and the Weaknees option is the same crappy drive I'm replacing albeit with a high cost. I do have a Best Buy extended warranty but the stores are closed and I can't do an exchange.

    This one on Amazon caught my eye:
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H2F3741/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_U_x_VoFHEbQQ3NS49

    Any opinions?
     
  3. Apr 2, 2020 #743 of 818
    V7Goose

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    In my opinion, the ONLY way you are going to get a reliable drive over 1 TB in a Bolt is to switch to a 3.5" WD Red or Purple drive. The procedure is both simple and cheap. Well documented in multiple threads here.
     
  4. Apr 2, 2020 #744 of 818
    fis

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    Personally, I would never try using a solid state drive in a TiVO. There is a misconception that SSDs are infinitely reliable because they don't have moving parts. This is a falsehood. AFAIK there is no such thing as a DVR-rated SSD that can handle the task reliably over time. Stick to the advice here. Your choices as far as I can tell:
    1. Roll the dice with a 2TB or 3TB thin 2.5" drive like the Toshiba (my luck was bad with that option, but others have been going 2-3 years with trouble-free performance).
    2. Deal with the 1TB limit of the WD Red 2.5" drive.
    3. Use an external 3.5" drive, which, as others have pointed out, really is easy if you just follow the formatting steps. You don't have to cut holes or modify your TiVO case, but, if your TiVo is NOT inside a cabinet, then it's ugly to look at.
     
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    Tony_T

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    I would go with the 3.5 external option, but if 2.5 inch is a must, I would go with the Toshiba 4T (or 2T, 3T not available) at OWC:
    Website says 1yr OWC Warranty on the 4T, 3Yr Toshiba warranty on the 2T.
    (Note: the 4T will auto format as 3T in the Bolt, however, there's a way to format above 3T. Don't remember how, but you can search the forum)
     
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  6. Apr 2, 2020 #746 of 818
    zubinh

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    Thanks for the suggestions! I have a Bolt Vox. Should I be looking at the 7mm, the 15mm or the 9.5mm? Or does it not matter?
     
  7. Apr 2, 2020 #747 of 818
    Tony_T

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    The 15mm will fit. (The WD I have, no longer available, is 15mm)
    Smaller should fit, but no need to go as small as the 7mm

    And remember, the Toshiba at OWC is not the Toshiba that used to be recommended here (no longer available), so can’t say if it would work, but if it were me, I would try it.

    Let us know what you decide.

    Here’s the video I used when I did mine:
     
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    HerronScott

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    Don't tell @zombiephysicist that. :) He's at 12 months on a 5TB SSD and I'm very interested to see how it works in the long run.

    5TB Bolt Drive to 7.68TB SSD Upgrade, Best Approach?

    Scott
     
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  9. Apr 2, 2020 #749 of 818
    Mikeguy

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    The Toshiba 2.5" 2TB drive from the original Toshiba series that people were using still is available, and at a killer $49.99 price; and the 3TB drive in the series also still can be obtained, my just having found it from Grooves in the UK (with free int'l shipping) at a great $97.14 price. Note, however, that these drives have been EOL'ed.

    Toshiba MQ03ABB200 -- https://www.amazon.com/TOSHIBA-MQ03...d=1&keywords=MQ03ABB200&qid=1585884118&sr=8-2

    Toshiba MQ03ABB300 -- https://www.grooves-inc.co.uk/toshi...iba-hardware-electronic-pZZa1-2098341320.html
     
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  10. Apr 3, 2020 #750 of 818
    sbl2786

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    Can you point me in the right direction I have a 3tb bolt+, it looks like the drive is going and I would rather replace it sooner than later. I dont see many options for 2.5 drives, I would love to do a 3tb or higher 3.5 if that possible, I wasnt aware that it was.
     
  11. Apr 3, 2020 #751 of 818
    Davelnlr_

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    I dont see what the difference between the Tivo, and running PLEX DVR software on a PC...which I have been doing with a 512TB SSD for over a year with no issues at all, and the drive shows only 5% lifetime used.
     
  12. Apr 3, 2020 #752 of 818
    HerronScott

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    Does Plex record 4-6 streams 24 hours a day (worse case without the max power savings turned on).

    Scott
     
  13. Apr 3, 2020 #753 of 818
    zombiephysicist

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    The SSD is 7.68GB by the way. :D Details in the thread for those interested.

    I'm calling the the myth that you cannot use SSDs in DVRs BUSTED! :D
     
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  14. Apr 3, 2020 #754 of 818
    tommage1

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    Has anyone "shucked" the WD Black 2.5" PS4/Xbox ONE game drives (mostly interested in 4-5TB models but would still be curious what drives are in the smaller capacity models). If so what are the model numbers of the internal drives and do they have normal Sata connections?
     
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    aaronwt

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    Aren't the WD Black drives 7200 rpm drives? A 7200 rpm drive is the last thing you want in a Bolt.
     
  16. Apr 3, 2020 #756 of 818
    tommage1

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    The WD Black GAMING drive is an external drive. I was asking what drive is in the enclosure if anyone has shucked, I DOUBT it would be an actual WD black, largest retail 2.5" Black was/is 1TB.

    It's called a P10 by the way (different model number for different sizes and there are different generations also). They might call it "Black" to take advantage of the Black drive reputation (one of WDs best drives, 5 year warranty for the RETAIL drives). Or maybe just because it is in a black enclosure ;)
     
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  17. Apr 3, 2020 #757 of 818
    aaronwt

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    I remember that video. I think I used that, back in October 2015, when I put my first 4TB drive in a Bolt.

    EDIT: Crap. And seeing that video reminded me that TiVo started putting a channel under the hard drive, for the wire that was run above the hard drive. I forgot to use that when I put the 1TB drive in my Bolt last week, and used a piece of a Command Strip instead.. Now I need to open it up again to run the wire under the hard drive..
     
  18. Apr 4, 2020 #758 of 818
    zubinh

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    Thanks all for helping to make up my mind. I came to the conclusion that if I get a drive 3TB or larger in a 2.5" form factor, its just not that reliable and 2 years from now I'll probably be faced with the same issue and an angry wife who just lost all of her recordings. So for $50 the 2TB Toshiba from Amzon that Mikeguy mentioned above will fit the bill.

    I did have another choice though. I could return my Bolt Vox and exchange it for a 2TB Tivo Edge since it is covered under the Magnolia extended warranty. I could easily get the lifetime service transferred. I have done this before. I really wanted the speedier processor and traditional square form factor the Edge provides. The reason I couldn't go this route is because right now the Best Buy stores in my area are all closed (not even doing curbside).
     
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  19. Apr 5, 2020 #759 of 818
    Mikeguy

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    Note that the Toshiba MQ03ABB300 3TB 2.5" drive is from the same series as the above-mentioned Toshiba 2TB drive, and originally was a favored choice for a hard drive upgrade. But it is harder to find nowadays at a lesser-prohibitive price (Grooves in the UK, which sells internationally, seems to be a good source (and has a great price right now, for a 3TB 2.5" drive), if you're ok with the int'l factor).

    edit: Also, if you wanted to save a bit on the Toshiba 2TB 2.5" drive, I just saw it for $10 less (new) on eBay. MQ03ABB200 - Toshiba 2TB Hard Drive (1T, S2) for Toshiba | eBay
     
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  20. Apr 5, 2020 #760 of 818
    zubinh

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    Thanks Mike. Bought it off ebay. Got the square trade 3yr warranty for an extra $3..:)
     
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