Bolt Hard Drive Upgrade Choice

Discussion in 'TiVo Bolt DVR/Streamer' started by GregMacMan, Sep 25, 2017.

  1. Aug 8, 2019 #561 of 818
    pl1

    pl1 Well-Known Member

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    I just purchased and installed the exact external hard drive case you linked to. It is just as you say.

    (During my research I noticed there used to be an OLDER version which had BOTH power connecters and BOTH data connectors for the SATA or PATA drives.)

    This newer version only has the PATA power with the data separated, while the SATA plug is a combined data/power plug soldered in.

    So, what I did was to turn the drive upside down and use a PATA to SATA power adapter. There is plenty of room this way and the drive sits tight enough in the case to skip the screws. (I could easily drill holes if needed.)

    Anyway, this drive case works perfectly for me. I purchased the Bolt with a 500g drive and I wanted to use a 3.5" 2TB drive from my Roamio. The external drive case fan is totally quiet. I did snip the cables to blackout the lights.
     
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  2. Aug 9, 2019 #562 of 818
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    I was going to write the exact same thing. The issue is you need more parts, a long SATA data cable and a Molex to SATA power converter. They cost about $7 on Amazon as a set. Just ignore the internal SATA connectors. Once you have all the parts, just insert the 3.5" drive in upside down. Plug the Molex to SATA power converter between the case power and the drive. Then plug the SATA data cable from the drive to the Bolt. The case still screws down and has room for the converter cables, so no issue there. My only issue was getting more parts than I expected.
     
  3. telecomjd

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    After installing the 3T Toshiba drive, the Bolt does not seem to be running hot. Just wondering if anyone has found the need to upgrade the fan or use a laptop cooler.
     
  4. JimWall

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    I just received a 500 GB Bolt Vox. Used the deal to migrate the lifetime from my series 3.
    I replaced hard drive with Toshiba 2TB L200 before I turned it on.
    It ran through setup and then said it needed to restart to apply a system update.
    It then got into a reboot loop. After an hour I put original drive back in and same issues.
    Tivo chat support only suggested pulling power for 10 seconds and plugging back in. Made no difference. Was told to call support.
    I called and after some checking Tivo support said the update can take up to 24 hours to apply. Will keep rebooting during that time.
    By morning Tivo was waiting at setup screen.
    I put the Toshibas 2 TB back in. After a couple reboots to also stopped at the setup screen.
    Went through steps and all its good
    Used tivo online to copy season passes over.
    System information estimates 315 HD hours free.
    Not how to get old recordings off old series 3.
     
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  5. krkaufman

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    Rollback BOLT to TE3 and transfer unprotected S3 content to BOLT; then stick w TE3 or upgrade BOLT to TE4 for full TE4 (VOX, Autoskip) functionality.
     
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  6. JimWall

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    How do I upgrade BOLT VOX to full TE4 or is that what I have now? system info is 21.9.1.v14-USC-11-849
    Found post on downgrading; happening now
    completed in 30 minutes
    can now see old series 3 and familiar GUI!!
     
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  7. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    That is the latest TE4.
     
  8. DeltaOne

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    Removing the cable card door will help a lot. Putting a USB fan under the Bolt blowing up on the exposed cable card will help a bit more. My son runs a 5-inch USB powered fan from AC Infinity under his Bolt.
     
  9. Tony_T

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    Wouldn't it be better to have the fan blown away from the Bolt?
     
  10. ej42137

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    That would be almost useless.
     
  11. Sonyad

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    Okay for a partial update. I received the Rosewill enclosure and I liked it more than the Sabrent, so I returned that one. The Rosewill has the separate connections, the drive was easier to install and it has usb 3.0 connectivity which I wanted for MFS Reformatter. Up until a couple of days ago, I hadn't realized there was a different program than MFS Tools. Reformatter had simple instructions and it was easy to use.

    Then the need for a rotary tool hit. Luckily Microcenter has the Inland rotary tool kit for only $7. Thank God for the Internet because the kit came with no instructions. I drilled an opening on my enclosure but I didn't want to drill my Bolt so I just didn't reinstall the narrow cover on the left side of the Bolt. I can live with that for awhile.

    The guided setup went fine and I decided to try the My Shows method of transferring shows from my Roamio. However after it finishes I going to use Tivo Online to transfer my Walking Dead and American Test Kitchen recordings in bulk. No way I'm going to do those one by one.

    Hopefully things go well so I can put a cable card in the Bolt and get my recordings started. Then before it's deactivated, the Premier shows go to the Roamio.
     
  12. DeltaOne

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    The fan is blowing up under the Bolt...so the cool air hits the cable card.

    Perhaps, in most situations, moving the heat away is the best solution. But the goal here is one thing only...cool off that hot cable card so its heat does not radiate inside the Bolt.
     
  13. Tony_T

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    The Bolt's fan is moving hot air out the bottom of the Bolt, so having an auxiliary fan blowing up could potentially be blowing that hot air back into the Bolt. Just check the IDT before/after up/after down to see which gives the best cooling.
     
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  14. JoeKustra

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    By extension, an OTA Bolt should be cool. I know everyone has an opinion, so here's mine. Get a USB powered 160mm to 180mm quiet fan, running on low and mount it (just let it sit) behind the Bolt blowing that exhaust out the front. See what happens to the ODT. Those AC Infinity fans work well.
     
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  15. Mikeguy

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    Actually, that's a standard practice, to "suction" heat away from a component and thereby suction in further cooler air. A method used by AC Infinity cooling systems.

    [​IMG]
     
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  16. Mikeguy

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    ^ This. The complication being, most fan-based cooling pads seem to be built to blow the air either up (most?) or down, with no easy capability to switch between the two.

    Having an up-blowing, fan-based cooling pad, what I can say is that it cools my Bolt box (per the ODT) by a further average 15 degrees C. or so as compared to not using the cooling pad, with the cablecard hatch door removed. (The removal of the cablecard hatch door itself cools the box by 3-4 degrees.) This is with my multi-speed cooling pad set at its lowest, totally-silent (even standing right next to the pad) speed; increasing the speed to the highest level lowers the ODT by another 5 decrees C. or so.*

    * A second, more "basic," up-blowing cooling pad confirms these results, lowering the Bolt's ODT by about 10 degrees C. I may experiment with that pad sometime to see what happens to the temp. if I use the pad upside-down.
     
  17. DeltaOne

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    We put the fan directly under the cable card. The fan width is such that it stops before interfering with the Bolt's internal fan.
     
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  18. aaronwt

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    A long time ago I just swapped out the internal fan. That made a difference. PLus I have a 4TB drive inside. With the newer internal fan, plus being on a wire shelf, I've had no heat issues with my Bolts..
     
  19. Mikeguy

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    That seems to be my experience here as well (for the most part), as the Bolt's main bottom fan vents are in a smaller section at one corner of the box, with some other vents at the other corners/the side.
     
  20. V7Goose

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    That is a bad choice unless you do some other extreme cooling options. The poor cooling on the Bolt relies on the weak internal fan to pull air up through the tiny vents on the left and right side bottom edges of the case and blow it out the bottom after some of the air flows over the electronics. With the cover off above the fan, you will get no cooling.

    I suggest you put that little cover back on and just leave a crack at the rear for your cable, then use some tape to mostly seal that crack so the normal air flow is not disrupted.
     

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