Bolt Hard Drive Upgrade Choice

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  1. ggieseke

    ggieseke Well-Known Member

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    TiVo only uses SATA 1 (1.5 gigabit). No idea why most eSATA bridges in external enclosures failed a few years ago since you can make the SATA to eSATA transition without any electronics at all, but it's a TiVo and doesn't have to make sense.
     
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  2. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    It’s unfortunate that BOLTs are so unforgiving when swapping drives, else I might dig up my old Antec cases. Thanks for the info.
     
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    sender_name I remember XM 202!

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    So I'm reading through this thread trying to figure out what the present "best" choice for an upgrade is. I just bought the 500g Bolt 4 tuner and I wanted the best "internal" upgrade. What are people using today? I see the 2TB WD blue WD20NPVZ (out of stock everywhere) but I also get the "this isn't a media drive" argument. I'm wondering if we're only seeing the failures talked about and not the successes? And then there is the 3TB Toshiba drive that people are suggesting...and of course don't buy an SMR drive....go with CMR. And I thought the WD Blue was an SMR..I'm also willing to do the sata cable to the drive sitting on top if that's what's the only option..Is there a post in this thread that's updated or is it just a lot of searching and reading? Thanks.
     
  4. Mikeguy

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    I still seem to see the Toshiba 3TB as having been the most trouble-free. But perceptions can be so changed by the posts that are made.
     
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    sender_name I remember XM 202!

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    If you pop in the 3TB toshiba drive from macsales do you still want to pop it back out and run some sort of alignment with the MFSR program? It seemed like I read that somewhere...
     
  6. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    Likely in the MFS Reformatter thread.
     
  7. Mikeguy

    Mikeguy Well-Known Member

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    Totally optional. Lots of people just pop the new drive in and that's it. :)
     
  8. V7Goose

    V7Goose OTA ONLY and Loving It!

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    Just trying to share my experiences and opinion as brief as possible:

    1 Bolt with 3TB Toshiba - running fine for 3 yrs
    1 Bolt with 2TB WD Blue - running fine for 2 yrs

    I did NOTHING to those two new drives except plug 'em in and start the Bolt.

    AFAIK, Neither of those drives are still being made (but old stock sometimes available). Even if they WERE being made now, I would NOT choose to buy one if I wanted to do a new upgrade. Today I would buy a cheap $23 external 3.5" enclosure with fan and a WD Red or Purple drive in the desired size.
     
  9. osu1991

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    I ordered the 3TB Toshiba last Thursday. It came yesterday. I’m just waiting for it to finish the final setup now so I can delete about 400 or so SD cable channels
     
  10. intoid

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    I purchased my TIVO Bolt 3TB on 3/19/2019 that runs all the time till it recently stopped with all the 4 colorful led front LEDS flashing rapidly. No boot. So now I want to save the recorded content and plan to try a new drive. I was surprised when I removed the cover and found a WD30NPRZ in there! I will xerox the drive on a new WD30NPRZ as soon as I get it from the eBay. But I kinda expect it to also not boot unless my copier can recover the bad sector that I suspect is there. But I may discover that it’s an electronic failure on the drive instead. If that’s the case, I’ll try swapping the circuit boards tween the new drive and it to see if I get any success which depends on the analog input to the new board that may not match the old board. We’ll see... stay tuned...
     
  11. BobCamp1

    BobCamp1 Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't get another WD30NPRZ, unless you want that one to fail within 3-18 months too.
     
  12. intoid

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    Yes, I sorta agree with you, but it was OEM to my surprise. I may just send my unit back to TIVO on my “All In” maintenance lifetime plan, butfirst I want to save my content if I can. I do agree too, that the toshiba may outlast the WD, I can get a free replacement from TIVO but wit loss of recorded content. The free replacement may be another WD30NPRZ but it would be free. I’ve spent too much on 2.5s but I’ll have a copy, maybe.
     
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    One more comment: I don’t expect 2.5s to last as long as 3.5s. It maybe all one can expect to just get 3 years out of a 2.5 anyhow and less likely.
     
  14. HeatherA

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    Does anyone have a current favorite 3tb hdd for the Bolt. I ordered a 2tb Blue but my current Roamio has 3tb+the external media drive and it's at 78% so 2tb won't cut it. Gotta find a good drive to get here before the box does. ;)
     
  15. Mikeguy

    Mikeguy Well-Known Member

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  16. HeatherA

    HeatherA Old AVS Forum Member

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    I'm looking at these today. I ordered a 2tb blue from Amazon, what steps would I need to do to go the external route on a brand new Bolt 6 tuner? Can you point me to a thread, I've been looking but coming up empty.
     
  17. Sonyad

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    I found this thread Tivo Bolt - Raid 1
     
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  18. V7Goose

    V7Goose OTA ONLY and Loving It!

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    There are lots of threads on this, both in this forum and the upgrade forum. Just do a search on the word "enclosure" and you will probably find more than you want.

    In short, you buy something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Alum...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=BP7DBDMTB4EFZ8XG3ASB

    You install the new drive in the enclosure, but you do NOT connect it to anything but the power plug.
    Next, you open the Bolt and use a normal SATA cable to connect the drive directly to the same place in the Bolt where the internal drive is connected. You are done - just turn on the enclosure and power up the Bolt.

    The toughest decision you will have is if you want to leave the cover loose on the bolt or cut a hole in the plastic for the SATA cable.

    MOST current external enclosures do not seem to have built-in fans. I personally think that the fan is important, since this installation requires that external drive to be running constantly 7x24x365. Another important feature of the enclosure you buy is that it must have separate power and data plugs, or you will not be able to use a normal SATA cable directly connected to the drive. Any other features or specifications of the enclosure are meaningless - the only thing you want it to do is provide power and cooling to the drive.

    Technically, you do not even need an enclosure - you could just lay the external drive on the shelf behind the Bolt with both the data and power cables coming from the Bolt. But the external enclosure is just neater, cools the drive, and reduces the load on the Bolt.
     
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  19. tvmaster2

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    Hi, sorry, what’s the model number of the Toshiba drive? thanks.
     
  20. tvmaster2

    tvmaster2 Well-Known Member

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    Can you explain what SMR & CMR stand for, and their relevance/importance to being used in a Bolt? Thanks
     
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