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Bolt Hard Drive Upgrade Choice

Discussion in 'TiVo Bolt DVR/Streamer' started by GregMacMan, Sep 25, 2017.

  1. Nov 2, 2017 #21 of 231
    atmuscarella

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    Here is a link to the Western Digital web page about the Red drives, drive numbers are towards the bottom: WD Red – Network Attached Storage (NAS) Hard Drive | Western Digital (WD)

    And here is the link to the WD web page about the Purple drives again drive numbers are listed towards the bottom: WD Purple Surveillance Internal Hard Drive | Western Digital (WD)

    Both drives series have 3 yr. warranty (assuming you buy from an authorized dealer) which is more reliable is an unknown.
     
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  2. Nov 5, 2017 #22 of 231
    fis

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    This is extremely helpful. Since all the eSATA solutions no longer work, I've been wondering whether I needed an enclosure at all (my Bolt's in a cabinet with plenty of room, so ugly is not a concern).

    I already have one of these powered EZDocks lying around unused. So would I be correct in assuming I could just lie the WD Red drive flat in the cabinet, get a 15-pin extension cable to use that dock to power the drive, and get a SATA data cable to directly connect the drive to the Bolt?
     
  3. Nov 5, 2017 #23 of 231
    atmuscarella

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    I am guessing it will work, the assumption would be that it will provide power without something being plugged into it's SATA connection.
     
  4. Nov 6, 2017 #24 of 231
    Tony_T

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    I'm planning on getting a 500GB Bolt this month (my 1st Tivo) with the intent on upgrading to 2TB with the WD20NPVZ (from Amazon @ $118 w/free shipping).

    If I activate with the 500GB (I may decide to return within 30 days), what will I lose when I upgrade to 2TB? (besides, of course, any recordings). Will the Bolt need to be re-activated? (and if so what does that mean?) Will scheduled recording (season pass) be lost?
     
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  5. Nov 6, 2017 #25 of 231
    fis

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    Things like season passes that are stored in the cloud should not be lost. As I recall, settings that are local to your Bolt, like checked/unchecked channels, may have to be selected again.
     
  6. Nov 7, 2017 #26 of 231
    ggieseke

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    Back up your season passes and channel lineup settings with kmttg, then you can restore them after the drive swap. In my experience with Roamios the only thing that will survive is the name of the TiVo.
     
  7. Nov 7, 2017 #27 of 231
    Sparky1234

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    Congrats on your decision to go TiVo!
     
  8. Nov 7, 2017 #28 of 231
    Tony_T

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    kmttg looks interesting — Thanks.
     
  9. Nov 7, 2017 #29 of 231
    Sparky1234

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    kmttg is great and pytivo is another great program worth looking into.
     
  10. Nov 7, 2017 #30 of 231
    Tony_T

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    Thanks, I'll take a look at pytivo. (Still need to buy the Bolt ;))
     
  11. Nov 9, 2017 #31 of 231
    idksmy

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    IMO, and what I've done with a Roamio Basic and a Bolt, the simplest solution with your first Tivo, is to;

    1. Buy the Tivo you want with the smallest hard drive.
    2. Replace the internal drive with the Toshiba as soon as you open the box, i.e., do not run through Guided Setup using the original hard drive.
    3. Plug the Tivo in, run through Guided Setup.
    4. Done.

    No need to back anything up, transfer it, etc.
     
  12. Nov 9, 2017 #32 of 231
    Tony_T

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    I was considering that, but as this will be my 1st Tivo, I've decided to use the 500GB for a little while, so if for any reason I want to return it, I didn't void anything. Also, I'm going to install the WD 2TD as it has more than enough space for my needs.
     
  13. Nov 9, 2017 #33 of 231
    geekmedic

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    What's the maximum size drive the TiVo will take? I'm really tempted to put an 8 or 10 TB Enterprise drive in my next one. I've always had TiVo's to fail around 3-5 years.
     
  14. Nov 9, 2017 #34 of 231
    Sparky1234

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    As big as you want in a Bolt... 3.5" on the outside.
     
  15. Nov 9, 2017 #35 of 231
    Sparky1234

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    2TB will seem small in a year...
     
  16. Nov 9, 2017 #36 of 231
    Tony_T

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    I've been using 1TB expansion on my SA8300 for over 8 years and rarely reach capacity, so no.
     
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  17. Nov 9, 2017 #37 of 231
    idksmy

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    Up to 3 TB, you can simply replace the internal drive and the Tivo will format it and use it.

    Larger than 3 TB, you have to use a utility to format it before you install the drive. There are instructions and links to the program on TCF. I think the utility will handle up to 8 TB drives. So, no, it is not 'as big as you want'.

    2.5" internal drives for Bolts
    3.5" internal drives for Roamios

    Having an external drive never appealed to me. YMMV.
     
  18. Nov 9, 2017 #38 of 231
    Sparky1234

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    I've read that Bolt can use any sized HD mounted externally with it's own power supply. Is that not true???
     
  19. Nov 9, 2017 #39 of 231
    idksmy

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    No idea. Perhaps external drives do not need to be formatted like internal drives do.
     
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  20. Nov 9, 2017 #40 of 231
    aaronwt

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    What about the 2TB Toshiba?
     

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