Bolt Hard Drive Upgrade Choice

Discussion in 'TiVo Bolt DVR/Streamer' started by GregMacMan, Sep 25, 2017.

  1. JohnnyO

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    Toshiba drive from MacSales/OWC ordered! Thanks for the thread, everyone.
     
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    Is there a sticky where it lists all of the current working hard drive replacements? I want to make sure that I buy the correct 2TB drive. Thanks.
     
  3. mdcubsfan

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    So is there a consensus on what is better and or easier and or less troublesome for down the road? The Toshiba 3tb or a larger external drive? Really just want a one time fix and don’t think about it again - I think 3tb would be more than I could ever fill it with....
     
  4. randian

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    The WD20NPVZ is more expensive than the 3TB Toshiba. BH Photo claims the WD is a discontinued model. What in WD's lineup replaces it?

    I can't fill up a 2TB drive, so 3TB doesn't do much for me. Is there a smaller version of the Toshiba appropriate for a DVR application?
     
  5. Mikeguy

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    I believe that the 3TB Toshiba model also comes in 1TB and 2TB flavors.
     
  6. Mikeguy

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    Doesn't adding an external drive offer more potential failure points?
     
  7. el-such-n-such

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    1 additional cable, and 1 additional power plug to power the drive, same number of drives, right?
    You have to be mindful of this, if you can't depend that you/others will be, then yes, there is additional risk that needs to be accepted. But if you can mount it safely and be mindful, I don't consider it a huge issue.
     
  8. texasPI

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    Will an external 3.5” drive sleep when the TiVo enters standby?


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  9. el-such-n-such

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    If you install the eSATA cable to the correct internal port, then the external drive is connected exactly the same as the internal drive. So the operation on the SATA bus will be identical regardless of where the drive is physically located.

    Does the Tivo forcibly power-down the internal drive, when the owner puts the device in Standby?
    I confess, that I don't know the answer to this question, and am happy to learn it.

    When I investigated disk activity on older series Tivos, the computer was *always* writing video to disk, so I expect this to continue to be the case, but am happy to learn this answer as well.

    If the answer is "no", then the operation of an internal and external drive will be the same (unless someone physically powers the external drive down when the Tivo is powered, which is one of the risks you need to accept if you are going to operate like this).
     
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  11. zhelder

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    Hi gang. I just bought two all-in Bolts and want to upgrade the hard drives. Honestly, my mind is completely blown over how scarce and expensive compatible drives are. Does anyone know if the WDBMYH0020BNC is a good choice? It’s substantially cheaper than the WD20NPVZ, but information is so scarce on these drives I can’t figure out why. If the WDBMYH0020BNC is a dud, then I’ll probably get the Toshiba.

    TiVO’s really been approaching Apple levels of nefariousness lately. I never thought it would be this difficult to upgrade the hard drive. Thanks for any advice.
     
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    My experience with WD drives has been poor. However, WD has been great at replacing them under warranty. Each time of a warranty claim it has been painless, but have to wait about two weeks to get a new drive back.

    I started with WD20 upgrade and after two months, the Tivo reset itself during viewing, playback had pixelation errors and dropouts, skip or fast forward was very slow, browsing recordings was slow. So, I sent the drive to WD and received a WD30. After a couple of months, same issue. Sent the drive back and received a new WD30. Placed the TiVo on a notebook cooling pad with fan. The ODT is around 50-55. Yet, the drive started having the same issues after a month. Will try the Toshiba one now.
     
  14. Tony_T

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    WD20…. NPVZ or SPZX?
     
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    tommage1

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    Try a PMR 3.5" drive in an external enclosure. Connected directly to the Sata port on the Bolt MB. Use the power in the external enclosure, not the Bolt power connection, it is not enough for a 3.5 drive. . Not an Esata enclosure, one where you can connect power and Sata connections to the drive individually. If you stick with 3TB or less the Bolt will format it for you with no additional work. Have to make SURE you have a PMR drive though, not SMR.
     
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    tommage1

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    About the external enclosure, the only things it is being used for is to hold the drive and the power. So ANY external enclosure with separate drive and power connections will be ok. I actually used an old IDE external case, just used a molex to Sata adapter for the power part, and obviously a Sata connection from the Bolt MB to the drive, I just disconnected the small IDE cable in the enclosure.
     
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    tommage1

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    Here are some pictures. Right now though I am using the power from the external enclosure I don't have the drive inserted as am running tests on different drives. The Sata cable from the Bolt MB, I actually use two cables, they connect in the middle (M/F connections) so can disconnect the external from the Bolt easily. The Sata cable coming out of the Bolt, if you want to put the cover completely back on you could either put a couple shims on each side of the cable to keep it from getting pinched, or just trim the Bolt case. 100_3485.JPG 100_3486.JPG 100_3487.JPG
     
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    Tony_T

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    2T: WD20NPVZ
     
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