Bolt+ doesn't support HD antennas?

Discussion in 'TiVo Bolt DVR/Streamer' started by ARC, Oct 23, 2016.

  1. ARC

    ARC New Member

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    I haven't logged in here since 2007. Hi! Still have an SD lifetime hacked TiVo in a closet somewhere, but I was on DirecTV and well, we know how that went.
    I cut the cord 6 months ago, and got a Tablo with a 5TB. It "works", but the user interface is nowhere near TiVos. I saw a mention that TiVo had an OTA recorder now, went looking, found the specs for Bolt and Bolt+.
    Searched the forums here and read through a few threads on this.
    Bolt apparently is flaky on HD ? Bolt+ does NOT SUPPORT HD Antennas?
    Baffled that this would be so. ??? I've hacked a number of TiVos in my time, not afraid to do it again - apparently you can replace the internal drive in the Bolt, but also can use a USB external?
    Does an external slow performance down? Stutter seems a common word here.
     
  2. thyname

    thyname Well-Known Member

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    Bolt+ is cable only.

    This is what you would be looking for (lifetime included):


    https://www.tivo.com/shop/buy-roamio-ota-dvr

    Can be found cheaper elsewhere, but always look for 1 tB version, and make sure service included. Roamio OTA versions can be confusing
     
  3. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

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    No TiVo model supports an external USB drive. Other threads exist to replace the internal 2.5" drive.
     
  4. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    TiVo currently offers 2 different OTA-capable models:
    • BOLT
    • Roamio OTA

    Insufficient data. HD == hard drive or Hi-Def? "flaky" == ???


    Correct; BOLT+ is CableCARD-only. Can't help with why it might be baffling; an HDVR2 couldn't do cable or OTA antenna, and TiVo started producing cable-only DVRs back with the 4-tuner Premieres, 5 years back.


    The process is simple enough that I wouldn't characterize DIY hard drive upgrades for the latest TiVo models as "hacking."

    TiVo only supports eSATA for external drive connection -- and only supports a single 1TB model from Western Digital. The consensus generally goes against this approach.

    What you may run across is some people modding their BOLT/BOLT+ DVRs to allow using a 3.5" HDD as the "internal" drive... by connecting an external enclosure to the DVR's internal SATA connection.
     
  5. ARC

    ARC New Member

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    I thought the Roamio was retired, so I hadn't looked at it.
    Sorry for the term hacked, back in the 90's and early aughts, I was moving movies to my laptop while I was traveling on business throughout the US, and that required quite a few non-supported mods.
    1TB is still the upper limit for Roamios?
    I have an Amazon Fire - what is the best method users up here have found for using both a Roamio and an AF?
    HD was as in, High Def OTA antennas - sorry for lack of clarity...
     
  6. mdavej

    mdavej Well-Known Member

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    I put a 3TB drive in my Roamio. Not sure what the limit is.

    Mini works much better than a Fire. But if you insist, you'll need a Stream or a Slingbox to get content to a Fire. I use both since the picture quality on Stream is so poor. Both are very awkward to control.

    I think for moving programs, TiVo desktop or pyTivo still works fine.

    I don't think Roamio is retired. But even if it were, I'd much rather pay ~$360 for a lifetime Roamio OTA than nearly a grand for a lifetime Bolt or pay a monthly/yearly fee. That's why I have 2 lifetime Roamios in service and 2 spares waiting in the wings and no plans to ever get a Bolt.
     
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  7. thyname

    thyname Well-Known Member

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    Roamio OTA 1 TB is definitely not retired. It is the only Roamio in TiVo "s "shop" page.

    Amazon Fire tv TiVo beta app is way below the functionality and features that a Mini offers.
     

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