Bolt Can't Transfer from Upgraded Series 3

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  1. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    It will not work from a S3 either. The feature uses an API called the mind interface, also referred to as RPC. Only Premiere and newer units support that API. The TiVo docs aren't clear about that, but I'm 99.9% sure both boxes need to be a Premiere or newer for it to work.
     
  2. sfhub

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    There was a post a while back that claimed certain more complex names caused MRV to fail somewhere in the process. It might have been symbols or something. I reset mine to default when debugging the OS problem that prevented transfers from older TiVos. Turns out my problem was the OS problem, so I never got to investigate the reported naming issue.
     
  3. sfhub

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    Does that actually still work? I was under the impression it was broken.

    I know my S3 OLEDs have much degraded functionality on TiVo online.
     
  4. Dan203

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    I used it over the weekend to transfer hundreds of recordings from my Roamio Pro to a new Bolt+. Worked fine. But as mentioned above I don't think it works with units older then the Premiere.
     
  5. lpwcomp

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    Looks like it may be the old "the TiVo is confused so you must de-select the options, force a connection, re-select the options. and force another connection to get things in their proper state".
     
  6. lpwcomp

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    It should work to transfer from an older unit.
     
  7. Dan203

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    Have you sucessfully got it to work? It's been a long time since I had a S3 so I can't confirm, but I know the website uses the mind/RPC API and I know that doesn't work on units prior to the Premiere. But I guess it's possible it doesn't actually need to communicate with the source TiVo.
     
  8. reneg

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    It (Online Transfer Recordings) doesn't work to/from my Tivo HD.
     
  9. lpwcomp

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    I too haven't had an S3 in a while but it allowed me to select my S2 but says there are no files to transfer. Says the same thing for my Roamio and Roamio Pro. The only TiVo I have that does get a list is my local Premiere.
     
  10. scottopus

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    Just check Tivo online again it's still it can't connect. As I said before, I was able to transfer my Season Passes to the Bolt's OnePass which tells me Tivo can connect to my S3/HD.

    I'm about half way done with about another 100 shows to select. It takes about 25 seconds to select the show, wait, select transfer, wait, then select OK. This means I need to spend another 40 minutes to finish all the transfers. I've been spreading out the pain by only doing about 20-30 each day. I still have plenty of time (6 days) before I loose service.

    Have to say that I'm really enjoying the clearer picture, speed, apps (Amazon/Netflix/Youtube), and new remote.
     

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    I tried the same thing with the S2 on my account and it simply shows "no recordings". So I'm back to saying I don't think this works on any TiVo that's older then a Premiere.
     
  12. phox_mulder

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    I decided to just transfer everything from my OLED S3 to my emptiest Roamio OTA, rather than wait till the Bolt got here and try to get everything transferred in the 10 day window.

    Then once the Bolt gets here, I should be able to use TiVo Online to transfer from the OTA to the Bolt, quicker and easier.

    Having to transfer one at a time though, didn't even think to try TiVo Online.
    (well, cue up 4-6 to transfer, one at a time, then repeat the process a couple hours later)


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  13. sfhub

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    I've been doing 150-200 at a time from S3 OLED to Roamio Pro so I think you are fine to do more. It hasn't froze up once despite me expecting it to. I'm doing it from slingbox so basically just hit right, right, right, up, (repeat) from computer keyboard. It is pretty brain dead operation so I do it while catching up on shows.
     
  14. George Cifranci

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    I was doing this yesterday as a matter fact after I got my Bolt. I connected my TiVo Series 3 to my network and was able to see it on my TiVo Bolt. I was able to transfer the recordings to my Bolt. My Series 3 had the original 250 GB drive in it and all the recordings were from Antenna.

    Question: I have a TiVo Series 2 that doesn't have any service. If I plug it into my network should I be able to see it with my Bolt and transfer shows from it? I connected the S2 to my network but my Bolt wasn't able to see it.


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  15. Mikeguy

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    Not without service?
     
  16. Redoctobyr

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    I started wondering about something kind of related. I am transferring my Series 2 Lifetime to my new Bolt.

    It made me wonder what would happen for transfers if I denied the Series 2 internet access after I transfer the Lifetime to the Bolt. I wonder if transfers would stay enabled on the Series 2, if it didn't know its Lifetime was turned off.

    It couldn't get Guide data, etc, so it wouldn't be terribly useful (and this is more of a mental exercise). But maybe you could get more time for transfers. Of course, having it on my network, while preventing it from reaching the internet, would be awkward. I might need to just set up a separate switch/router and mini network for the transferring devices, without an internet connection.
     
  17. Mikeguy

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    I had read elsewhere that this could be a way to get further use out of the TiVo--keep it isolated from the Internet prior to deactivation, and be able to continue using the box for manual recordings (but there will be an issue with the clock, with clock drift and Daylight Saving Time). But I haven't read anything about the transfer angle.
     
  18. George Cifranci

    George Cifranci TiVo Bolt 500GB - TE4 UI

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    What I mean is that my Series 2 doesn't have any subscription service from TiVo and hasn't for years but I still have some shows recorded on it that I would like to transfer. I was wondering if I could just connect it to my network and let it boot up if my Bolt would see it and let me transfer shows from it?
     
  19. lpwcomp

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    Even if you can, any TiVo that was not in service during the conversion period is going to have screwy metadata.
     
  20. Mikeguy

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    Easy enough to try, potentially. My guess is, no--my Series 2 came with TiVo "Basic" service and if I recall correctly, part of the limitations of that was no transfer capability. But I've separately wondered, how about transfers to a PC?

    When I asked TiVo recently as to transfer ability with the deactivation of a Series 2 box as part of TiVo's current Bolt upgrade promotion, I was told that transfers would not work--but I think that the rep. was focusing on box-to-box transfers.
     

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