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Bolt and Mini setup help

Discussion in 'TiVo Help Center' started by hoopster3, Mar 5, 2017.

  1. jmbach

    jmbach der Neuerer

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    If you hook the diplexer uhf/vhf to your antenna, leave the satellite connection open and the in/out to your Bolt, do you still get all 30 channels.
     
  2. hoopster3

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    I do.

    I think I was confused by the way the Bolt displays the found channels when doing a scan. It said I recieve 9 channels, but as an example it's including channel 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, 4-4n ect...as only channel 4.

    I seem to be getting all the channels I should now OTA. My MoCA connection is also still working well. My problem was not running my antenna through any splitters before getting to the diplexer.

    Now to find a permanent spot to mount my antenna...
     
  3. jmbach

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    Very good.
     
  4. hoopster3

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  5. jmbach

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    That is a good choice. It is similar to my Linksys EA9500 that works well. I have it upstairs about central in the house and I get great reception in my basement.
     
  6. mdavej

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    I personally think that's insane. But it's your money.

    This one is only $60-$70 and has been a stellar performer for me.

    Amazon.com: TP-Link AC1200 Gigabit Wireless Wi-Fi Router (Archer C1200): Computers & Accessories

    You went to all the trouble to get Moca working, why not actually use it? Thanks to Moca, I have wired internet in every room plus the ability to plug in a wifi access point wherever I wish (those only cost $20 instead of $260 for something that would cook birds flying overhead).
     
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  7. JoeKustra

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    Highly recommended. I use one which supplies wireless for two floors and two adjacent houses. It also supports USB and eSATA. Two 5GHz channels and one 2.4GHz channels. The R8500 is supposed to be better, but I can't justify the price. It's ugly but fast.
     
  8. hoopster3

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    I believe that no matter what router I go with, my MoCA network will still provide a benefit to whatever Wi-Fi setup I put in place. Many of my connections (cell phones, Ipads, Alexa, wifi-printer) do not have the option of using a wired connection. The only device that could benefit from a wired connection that currently doesn't have one is my Xbox One. It sits next to my Bolt so I just have to look more into the settings on why the Ethernet cord from the Bolt is messing with my system.

    Outside of that, I appreciate the feedback and am always open to looking a cheaper options. I will keep this in mind when it comes time to make a purchase.
     
  9. mdavej

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    I understand completely. Like you, I probably have 30 devices on wifi, and a good wifi coverage is essential. What I'm saying is you can plug a wifi access point into your Moca network anywhere in your house. So you don't have to limit yourself to one $300 high powered router in one location. If you only need to improve wifi in one far away part of your house, just plug in a $20 access point. I have a lot of space to cover in my house, and this works fine for me. I have excellent wifi coverage by taking advantage of wired Moca to expand my wifi and not spending $300 on a router.
     
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  10. hoopster3

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    I understand what you're saying now. I looked at some of the pricier routers as I'm hoping they have more future ready abilities as things are always changing. Our area already receives a fairly solid internet connection and they are already talking of upgrading. I don't typically go for the most expensive item (and there are several others priced much higher) but rather something in the middle that helps keeps me up to date as new technology become available.
     
  11. UCLABB

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    Yeah, several months ago I simply bought a cheap used router that I set up as an access point. I put it in an area across the house from my main router using the Ethernet port on my Plus. So, for $20 I now have great wifi coverage throughout the house. It does take a little work to set up an access point capable router, but there's so much online help, it's not that hard.
     
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  14. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

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    How fast do you want to go? What is your speed now?

    A major factor in router speed is the number of users. With DNS lookups, multiple devices and slower devices, you need to layout you needs, then find something that fits those needs.
     
  15. hoopster3

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    I guess I want to go as fast as my internet allows. Here are the results of my most recent speed test:

    Wired connection speed:
    Ping 15 ms
    Download speed 239 Mbps
    Upload speed 29 Mbps

    Wireless connection speed:
    Ping 45 ms
    Download speed 60 Mbps
    Upload speed 28 Mbps

    Just going off previous posts in this thread and thinking back to how many wireless devices I had 7 years ago when I bought my current router. 7 years ago I had 2 devices that connected through wi-fi. Now I have a multitude of devices such as phones, Ipads, printers, Sonos sound system, Alexa, wi-fi plug-ins, smart TV's, dvd players, Xbox One, ect.

    I like the Nighthawk 3200ac and the saftey measures it has. It might be overkill, but I only see things advancing as far as what needs a wireless connection. I'd rather be ahead of the times than late to the party.
     
  16. fcfc2

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    Go ahead and get your Nighthawk, you want it. But what I would suggest is that you carefully check the wireless specifications of those devices that you are using and determine what band they are using. Many printers have outdated wifi cards and only can connect at "g" speeds and usually on the 2.4GHz band, other devices may have similar limitations.
    To get the maximum wifi throughput the router needs to be configured to use WPA2, with AES encryption and you need to be in a relatively "uncongested" wireless environment, which many folks have no clue about.
    If at all possible, IME you would do best to shift anything stationary to the 5GHz band if possible because it is often relatively uncongested and has many more non-overlapping channels to choose from. Don't be put off if it appears that the 5GHz signal isn't quite as strong, it will still often outperform the 2.4GHz even when showing a band or two less of signal strength. I don't know what you mean by "wifi plugins", but if you are referring to the older single band "extenders" (repeaters) that plugin to an outlet and connect wirelessly....give them away to someone you dislike. There are newer versions of these things that use dual bands, one to recieve and one to send, that are better, but generally they are not recommended by me anyway.
    To figure out what is going on in your wireless environment, try using one of these softwares,
    Free version of inSSider.
    inSSIDer

    For windows XIRRUS WI-FI INSPECTOR-(Just make up a company name)
    Wi-Fi Inspector | Xirrus

    For android use "WiFi analyzer", a free app.
    For MACS
    inSSIDer Alternatives for Mac OS X - AlternativeTo.net
     
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  17. hoopster3

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    By Wi-Fi plug-ins I mean they are devices that are connected to the outlet and I can plug other items into. I can then use Amazon Echo to turn these devices on or off. For instance, I can turn on a living room lamp by asking to Alexa to do so. I'm not talking about Wi-Fi extenders, but maybe I could have chosen my words differently. I referred to them because they are on my wireless network.

    I'm not completely sold on the Nighthawk but I'd say I'm leaning that way right now.

    Also, thank you for the links. I'll give them a shot.
     
  18. Mikeguy

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    Thanks for the inSSider info.--I hadn't been aware that a free version is still available, and will have to check it out. Instead, I've been using NirSoft's (freeware) WifiInfoView and have found it helpful.

    WifiInfoView - WiFi Scanner for Windows 10/7/8/Vista
     
  19. JoeKustra

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    Should you decide, it's cheaper on Amazon. Amazon.com: NETGEAR Nighthawk X6 AC3200 Tri-Band Gigabit WiFi Router (R8000) Compatible with Amazon Echo/Alexa: Computers & Accessories
    I can't test its internet speed since my feed is only 40Mbps/4Mbps. I have over a dozen devices, most on 802.11ac and on wireless bridges. The unit has support for TiVo and other files. Amazon also indicates Alexa support. I have used it for USB 3.0 storage, but changed to using my Roku 3. I'll let the router be a router. Good luck.

    As for the topic of this thread goes: I have four Mini units attached to two Roamio units. All Mini and one Roamio use wireless bridges.
     
  20. hoopster3

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    Ended up purchasing this today after reading several reviews and talking to the IT department through work: Asus - AC3100 Dual-Band Wi-Fi Router - Black

    Planning on running some speed tests on a lot of devices today with my current setup. Then I'll hook up the new router and check speed and range again. If I'm not happy, I'll try something different.

    I'll post results when I get a chance. Off to a birthday party for my son's classmate now...
     

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