Bolt and Mini setup help

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  1. krkaufman

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    Not really scope creep, since the MoCA setup's been solved... and the OP has moved on to figuring out why they can't get better TV reception. Start talking about upgrading the wireless router, though... ;)


    Yep, good idea. Though the diplexer, so long as it's not defective, shouldn't be the problem, nor should any cable TV signals on the "SAT" leg of the diplexer, since those signals should be filtered-out. (40+dB attenuation)
     
  2. hoopster3

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    I didn't choose anything besides the MoCA connection. I even left ethernet turned off but the Bolt turned it on when I connected it to the Xbox.
     
  3. hoopster3

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    Good thoughts! I will try that as well.
     
  4. krkaufman

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    Right, but did you select "MoCA bridge" or "MoCA client"? (I don't have a BOLT, so am not certain of the choices.) You would want to select "MoCA client."
     
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    I don't remember seeing that choice. I will double check the settings.
     
  6. jmbach

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    I think the Bolt gives you two MoCa options. One is to 'Connect using MoCa' and the other is to 'Use this DVR to create a MoCa network'

    I don't know if the first option is designed to allow the Bolt to use ethernet port as a bridge into the MoCa network. I not saying it won't work just that it may not have been intended to be used that way.
     
  7. krkaufman

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    I'm not sure whether you'll need to first disable MoCA to get back to where you can see both options.
     
  8. krkaufman

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    Those were the options on the BOLT up until one of the recent updates, I think 20.6.3, when TiVo pushed some additional changes to the BOLT to "complete" the HD UI. (see here) In the process, they altered the MoCA setup options, as well as broke/removed a number of other MoCA-related features. (see here)

    The new MoCA setup options *for the BOLT series* are along the lines of:
    • MoCA bridge (still "Use this DVR to create a MoCA network" on other MoCA-capable DVRs)
    • MoCA client (still "Connect using MoCA" on other MoCA-capable DVRs, and the only option on the Mini)
    I don't know the exact wording, as I don't have a BOLT, and TiVo hasn't yet updated their online documentation to reflect the changes.
     
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  9. jmbach

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    I see. I don't have a Bolt either. So in that aspect we are in the same boat. Nevertheless, whether the wording is 'MoCa client' or 'Connect using MoCa' my comment is the same.
     
  10. hoopster3

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    This suggestion had led to some new information. I moved an unused TV and ran a direct 5ft coax connection from the antenna to the TV. I ran a scan and found 30 channels that came in. I then used the existing coax in the master bedroom, without moving the antenna, and ran it down directly into the TV (unplugged from diplexer and into TV) in the basement. That resulted in the scan finding the same 4 channels as it had previously.

    This leads me to believe the existing coax is a problem, either the cable itself or it being hooked up to a splitter behind the wall. Is my best bet to find a good location for the antenna (most likely roof mount) and run new coax straight to the diplexer and into the Bolt? Any other possible causes?
     
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    After checking the settings the Bolt is and was setup as a MoCA client.
     
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  12. krkaufman

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    Well, I guess that's the big question... how EXACTLY is the cable routed from that bedroom down to the basement? If it's going through a splitter in some central juncton, yeah, find that splitter location and bypass the splitter by using a barrel connector (e.g.), assuming doing so doesn't break some other piece of the setup.

    You might also want to do as previously suggested, and temporarily move the BOLT to this upstairs location to see how many channels the BOLT is able to identify as part of its scan.
     
  13. hoopster3

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    Will the Bolt still scan antenna channels if it's not hooked up to the internet?
     
  14. krkaufman

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    I was kinda hoping you wouldn't ask that, as I don't know. (I was looking forward to learning one way or the other, based on your results. :D) No Internet connectivity from that room?

    Any chance of tracing that coax line to find any hostile/unwanted components?
     
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    I guess I could just turn off MoCA and connect the Bolt through Wi-fi.

    I don't think I can trace the coax behind the wall. I found where it comes out in the basement but there are no other hubs visible in the house.

    How hard is it to run a new coax line through the house???
     
  16. krkaufman

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    Ha, good point. Not concerned about maintaining wired network connectivity for the brief duration of the test.

    Can you check the signal quality at that point? Where does the cable route to from this point?

    Easy to heckish... every house is different.
     
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    How do I check the quality?

    From the basement it goes right to the Bolt. No splitter is used until it hits the diplexer. Even when I went straight to the TV the signal didn't improve.
     
  18. krkaufman

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    How big was that TV?

    Though, wait, is there not even a coax connection at this point where you see it come into the basement? Is it just a straight coax run without any breaks (splitters, barrel connectors) from the point you see it come into the basement all the way to the BOLT?
     
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    All I see is straight coax coming into the basement. It was running to a splitter in the basement for DirecTV.
     
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    So I rerouted my previously used DirecTV coax and hooked it up to a temporary mounted antenna. When running through the diplexer I only get channel 4. When I unplug from the diplexer and go straight to the Bolt I get about 30 channels.

    This is the diplexer I'm using:
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    Am I using the correct diplexer? I'd rather run my Bolt through MoCA instead of Wi-fi. I'm not sure if my Mini will even ne able to connect to the Bolt when one is Wi-fi and the other is MoCA...

    Any help?
     

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