Bolt and Mini setup help

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  1. Mar 7, 2017 #41 of 148
    krkaufman

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    Good info but it should be unlikely, since the modem is actually a MoCA-capable gateway...
    ... but that DOES resurrect the question of whether the OP might want to look into using their gateway as the MoCA bridge, rather than a standalone MoCA adapter. The option was discarded earlier when it was believed that the MoCA network would be isolated from the cable provider coax lines, but the possibility is back on the table with just the one coax running to the office.

    Though I'd personally stick w/ the standalone MoCA adapter, rather than having to rely on the provider not mucking with the gateway configuration -- and that's even *if* Mediacom allows MoCA to be enabled -- I'll defer to a Mediacom customer on the topic.
     
  2. Mar 7, 2017 #42 of 148
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    This is a good recommendation, even if you don't post a pic of the labeled connections. It could only be helpful in getting everything reconnected, and to facilitate any changes down the road.

    As a side note, since you'll be dropping from 4 connections down to just 2 on the secondary splitter, you'll certainly need to identify which 2 of the 4 coax lines currently connected to the DirecTV splitter are the runs to the BOLT and Mini locations.
     
  3. Mar 8, 2017 #43 of 148
    jmbach

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    If the OP gets a MoCA adapter with a pass through and depending on what signals are allowed to pass through the MoCA adapter, I think it would be possible to do this with one three way MoCA splitter at position A (with POE filter if not already built into the splitter), diplexer at the bolt, and a MocA adapter at the cable modem/router complex.
    From the three way you have a line going out to the Mini, Diplexer at the Bolt, and to the MoCA adapter at the cable modem/router complex. Attach the cable modem to the pass through of the MoCA adapter. If the signals are not passed through the MoCA adapter to the cable modem, then he would need to use a splitter as in your diagram. Only the ECB6200 and ECB2500C have a pass through.
    My only concern with your current setup and the one i have proposed would be degradation of the signal to the cable modem resulting in poorer performance.
     
  4. Mar 8, 2017 #44 of 148
    krkaufman

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    Yep.

    The ECB2500C should be ruled-out owing to it being only MoCA 1.1; and the Yitong standard MoCA 2.0 adapters also have a pass-through port.
     
  5. Mar 8, 2017 #45 of 148
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    Given how the cable line is currently routed, I don't expect it passing through a "PoE" MoCA filter and 2 2-way splitters will result in a significant degradation of the signal -- though the OP would need to verify the loss on the output of the current 3-way connection to quantify the difference.
     
  6. Mar 8, 2017 #46 of 148
    jmbach

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    I agree. Until the OP tries it we won't know for sure.
    My system is a little more sensitive to the attenuation of the signal getting to my cable modem. This is because I am on the fringe of my cable providers network. As a result I had to avoid using any splitters before my cable modem.
     
  7. Mar 8, 2017 #47 of 148
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    The OP could check the signal strength on their modem to see if they're on the edge, as-is. It's a valid concern and would be a good way to get ahead of any issues.
     
  8. Mar 8, 2017 #48 of 148
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    Is that as simple as running a speed test?
     
  9. Mar 8, 2017 #49 of 148
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    A pre-tweaks speed test would be good to have as a baseline, for comparison, but no. It wouldn't necessarily be difficult; you just need to figure out how to find the signal diagnostics in your modem's UI.
     
  10. Mar 8, 2017 #50 of 148
    hoopster3

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    I'll check it out when get home.
     
  11. Mar 8, 2017 #51 of 148
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    While you're in there digging around, it might also be interesting to look around and see if you can find any MoCA settings.

    Re: How to use a Mediacom Modem/Router/WiFi with my own Router - Mediacom | DSLReports Forums

    Again, YMMV, but it appears that Mediacom rolls TiVo DVRs and MoCA, so it's possible you could theoretically reconfigure your TC8715/Netgear modem/router relationship to allow the cable gateway to establish your MoCA network.

    If the TC8715 has been converted to bridge mode (possibly what Mediacom calls "baselined"?) and the Netgear is acting as your router, rather than strictly as a wireless access point, then the built-in MoCA of the TC8715 wouldn't be usable. The TC8715 needs to be acting as your router -- though its wireless functionality could be handed-off to the Netgear router, configured strictly as a wireless access point -- in order for it to bridge between the coax and Ethernet LAN. One downside to using the Netgear strictly as an access point, rather than as the main router, is that you'd lose any "Guest" Wi-Fi functionality. Tradeoffs...
     
  12. Mar 8, 2017 #52 of 148
    krkaufman

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    Post #27 updated w/ diagram illustrating the options.
     
  13. Mar 8, 2017 #53 of 148
    hoopster3

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    Wired connection speed:
    Ping 15 ms
    Download speed 239 Mbps
    Upload speed 29 Mbps

    Wireless connection speed:
    Ping 45 ms
    Download speed 60 Mbps
    Upload speed 28 Mbps
     
  14. Mar 8, 2017 #54 of 148
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    Good info for comparison post-MoCA upgrade.

    p.s. Holy cow, I'd think you'd definitely want to get that XBOX networked via the BOLT. (see here)
     
  15. Mar 8, 2017 #55 of 148
    hoopster3

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    When I follow the directions in the link you provided it keeps showing "This page can't be displayed". I'll keep looking...
     
  16. Mar 8, 2017 #56 of 148
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    You might try stripping-off the MoCA portion of the URL and just go with... http://192.168.0.1 ... to see if you can gain access; otherwise, you'll just need to consult whatever documentation Mediacom offers for accessing the TC8715's UI -- if any.
     
  17. Mar 8, 2017 #57 of 148
    hoopster3

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    I got in. I haven't found anything that says MoCA yet but I did see that "Bridge Mode" is disabled.
     
  18. Mar 8, 2017 #58 of 148
    hoopster3

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    That is some good info that I'll put to use....hopefully the install goes well this weekend!
     
  19. Mar 8, 2017 #59 of 148
    jmbach

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    Does the cable modem support MoCa 2.0? At his wired speeds, it it doesn't, then I would scrap using it as a bridge and stick to a MoCa 2.0 adapter.
    Another question, does the mini being used support MoCa 2.0? Here I am not sure of the details. Does a MoCa network with mixed adapters (1.1 and 2.0) work at the lowest common speed of all adapters connected to the system or will it connect via mixed mode. If it the former, then you would want to use all MoCa 2.0 adapters to make full use of the Internet speed.
    Also I would consider upgrading your wireless ap/router.
     
  20. Mar 8, 2017 #60 of 148
    hoopster3

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    Is my router out dated? Are you basing that off the model #? Or off the speed of my Wi-Fi?
     

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