Blue spinning Circle of Death is back

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by dougdingle, Nov 7, 2015.

  1. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

    Jul 6, 2006
    Dayton OH


    Hope you do this. Facts would be helpful.

    Could one use WireShark on a PC on the same network to do this?
  2. WorldBandRadio

    WorldBandRadio Active Member

    Dec 20, 2010

    I see network activity from the TiVo out to the Internet that correlates with my usage of the menus.
  3. tomhorsley

    tomhorsley Well-Known Member

    Jul 22, 2010
    I wouldn't count on it. I'm very fuzzy on this stuff, but I'm not sure if it is possible to watch traffic not intended for you without special equipment. Since it all has to go through my router, I'm sure I could see it there. (I just need to spend some time figuring out how to run tcpdump and where to collect the output).
  4. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

    Dec 7, 2012
    Ashland, PA...
    I just went through all my menus, 1P manager and caused the following:

    [site allowed:] from source, Thursday, November 12, 2015 13:02:35
    [site allowed:] from source, Thursday, November 12, 2015 13:01:47

    This backs up your observation. That IP address is always used during the scheduled VCM connection also. :up:

    I use a Netgear R7500. If I enable the security to block sites, it causes this logging.
  5. BobCamp1

    BobCamp1 Well-Known Member

    May 15, 2002


    It depends on the switch in the router, and you must use promiscuous mode in Wireshark. It generally doesn't work unless you set up the switch to mirror all traffic to the monitoring PC.

    Instead I have a dumb hub I use for this. It's old but there's no switch inside it. It would go Tivo <-> dumb hub <-> router with the monitoring PC also connected to the dumb hub.
  6. WorldBandRadio

    WorldBandRadio Active Member

    Dec 20, 2010
    I've tried to watch the traffic to see what is going on, but some of the traffic is https.

    Regardless, there does seem to be a lot of traffic in sync with, and sometimes blocking, my menu navigation.

    I'm not sure what TiVo's rationale was to insert Internet traffic in between the steps of menu navigation. Especially when it appears to rely upon the reliability and availability of TiVo servers to navigate the menus quickly.
  7. dougdingle

    dougdingle HD Tech

    Jul 4, 2007
    West Coast
    I've also noticed that my Tuning Adapter access light flickers with just about any remote key press.

    Why the TA needs to be pinged when I change the volume on my receiver, for example, is completely beyond me.
    Last edited: Nov 17, 2015
  8. Damiansnpvp4

    Damiansnpvp4 Member

    Feb 6, 2015
    Yes, I agree. Something went to crap with the last update. I would welcome 30 second delay or even a minute, instead I get the C501, resulting in not being able to use many apps, including Streambaby. I'm now wondering if the same update turned off my slide remote keyboard search input. For the last year Tivo has been almost perfect & now C501 & remote keyboard problems. I use Streambaby to play my pc videos & remote keyboard on Youtube. I'm one bummed customer here.
  9. VicVinegar

    VicVinegar New Member

    Sep 18, 2015
    Not sure if it is related, but I had sluggishness including the blue circle that quickly went away around last weekend.

    Today I upgraded the HDD and now it is sluggish in the guide. Everything else seems to be working alright.
  10. gespears

    gespears Member

    Aug 10, 2007
    I've got a 6TB in mine and it's not having any issues. You might want to try a C&DE.
  11. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

    Dec 7, 2012
    Ashland, PA...
    Things are slow tonight. It doesn't last.
  12. tim1724

    tim1724 Active Member

    Jul 3, 2007
    The TiVo is simply telling the TA "hey, this guy is still watching this channel, so keep sending it to me."

    If the TA stops getting notifications that someone is watching (or that a program is being recorded) it will tell the SDV server that it can stop sending out that channel. If nobody else is watching the channel, it might want to stop sending it out in order to free it up bandwidth so it can send out some other channel instead (when another TA or set-top box asks for one).
    Last edited: Nov 17, 2015

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