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Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by gossamer88, Aug 1, 2006.
If no one else is falling for it then why has he only been on the block once?
Anyone who watching season two knows that will is brilliant. He was nominated just about every week and managed to stay through to the end.
We've only seen flashes of it here, but he's just as good, if not better this year. He managed to keep both himself and boogie in the game despite serious seasix pressure, and now he's managed to break their alliance to pieces. He handled Janelle perfectly. He knew that she was unsure of herself, and he provided reassurance and talked to her like a competitor, not like she's an idiot. He said, "I'll do whatever you want" and seemed completely sincere.
Compare that to James's accusations. he talkied to her like she had already betrayed them and like she was stupid, meanwhile everyone knows aboout his other alliance with diane and danielle. He's lucky she didn't nomiinate his ass (she reallly should have since he's now clearly her biggest threat).
Will was smart enough to know that ithe quickest way to lose Janelle is to treat her like she's stupid. James blew it. And the sad thing is, he should have known better. had he not flipped out, he probably could have talked her back from the edge, but his temper tantrum just pushed her right over it.
That's exactly how he won S2. During the final few weeks, he openly told everyone that he will lie to everyone in the house. And when he made it to the finals, he campaigned on the fact that he was honest because he told everyone he was going to lie. It was brilliant.
The reason S6 trust Will and Boogie (this includes Janelle, Kaysar, James) because when those 3 were HoH CT did exactly as they asked. Did CT manipulate them? Yes. Well Will did Boogie can not manipulate a damn thing he is Will's pawn. I truly believe if CT got HoH they would go after a floater and probably Howie. I know they lie but at this point they will honor their deals with Kaysar, Janelle and James. Now if James leaves S6 and aligns with Danielle out in the open than he is fair game and they will go after him. CT is not a threat yet but the floaters are because they have been manipulated by Will to think that the only threat in the house to them is S6. The "floaters" (especially Diane and Erika) have said they are going after S6 so that right there is your immediate threat. Now for just plain fun I want to see the house get down to S6 and CT because I want to see what happens when those 6 people have to turn on each other. I have no doubt in my mind at that point if S6 got HoH because they have the numbers would eliminate CT.
Will came into this house with a HUGE target on him. As the only past winner in the house, and a wildly popular player, I have to believe everyone came in with some notion of defeating the Evil Doctor.
Every week he remains is a bigger and bigger accomplishment. Nobody wants to get played like Will played the S2 players, and yet, they haven't taken him out.
I don't know that he can win it all again, but he's doing all he can to affect his own destiny.
Maybe not a literal whine, but he sure is a big complainer. Let's not forget his tantrum after he thought the veto contest that CG won was "rigged."
Yes he's frustrated - because his parachute is on the block. I'm sure he wouldn't have thrown a tantrum/yelled at Janelle/woken up Danielle if Janelle had said that she was going to nominate CG.
And he is supposedly all about nominating CT now, but when he was HoH, he wussed out and tried to rally against CG, the ultimate floater. His whole thing was to get rid of the floaters and leave CT in the house to keep some heat off of S6, but now that someone else is in charge, he wants them to take the heat.
I will grant James that he said he didn't want to put Jase up after the veto was used, but personally I think that he was glad not to have to be the one to nominate CT.
Just curious if you watched Season 2?
yep-and so did everyone in the house right now.
Why would he be glad about that?
You do it, they go home, leaving one person upset with you. I don't know that it's a big thing.
I am with James -- I think he listened to the majority of the S6 alliance, and let them vote as a team and he did what the majority of the team decided (when he put up Jase).
Janelle didn't. The others wanted Will up there, she didn't let the team vote, did her own thing.
But as far as the show goes, this is all good. I think James and Danielle will be strong competition, and will get Erika on their side.
Like someone above said, Marcellus is an interesting player now. Does he sort of stick with Janelle, or stay with the floaters. He's one of few not at all fooled by Chilltown. I imagine he's a bit miffed with Janelle for missing the easy chance to get rid of one Chiller.
I don't like Boogie (and how he thinks he's cool with his stale "shizzle" speak). I'm fine with Will, but don't find it all that impressive that he can manipulate these people.
I used to like Kaysar, but he's so gun-shy (from last year perhaps) that he does wimpy stuff like pick George to put on slop, nominate floaters instead of enemies, etc. He's kinda just like Howie -- do what I'm told, don't piss off people. Meh.
"I agree, he's totally overrated. He's not dangerous at all. The only person he can trick is Janelle. Let's nominate ________ (Nakomis/Diane/CGeorge/Erika etc...) and take out a REAL threat."
- Every HOH thus far.
The difference between what James did last week and what Janelle did this week is that James is the ONLY one who didn't want Janelle to put up Diane. Last week the majority voted it would be better to put up Jase. This week Howie and Kaysar were kinda wishy-washy but didn't seem to object much to putting up Diane (it came across like that on LF more so than it did on the show last night) James is acting like a baby beause he's not getting what HE wanted....two weeks in a row. And its a floater that he aligned himself with so it hurts him and not any of the other S6 alliance.
And let's not forget that everyone thought Kaysar was going to be a big target when he didn't put up CT but he's now pretty safe. How is that different than Janelle. Now Janelle, Kaysar (and kinda Howie) have this agreement with CT to put up floaters. This backlash from Jani's nomination is bound to pass over after the eviction tomorrow.
I just don't think James has ever really been completely in with the S6 alliance and that's his problem. James will end up being the downfall of the S6ers.
Here's the deal. Before she made the deal with Will (which Will may or may not honor) everyone but S6's would be putting Janelle up if they won HOH. She is obviously trying to do whats best for her which is what James and Kaysar did before her. She is trying to save her butt if CT wins HOH. So she lost James in the process. Oh well, she might have gained Will and Boogie. James can't whine about crap because he is going behind the alliances back by telling Danielle and Diane everything. He has secret deals all over the place. I don't mind him complaining to Janelles face and acting like he wants out of the alliance because its served its purpose. What annoys me is when he goes in the the Diary Room and acts like he fell on a sword when he was HOH and she isn't doing the same. He targeted Chicken Freakin George for crying out loud.
That veto competition was really difficult. Those letters were moving really quickly and I was having a very hard time following even without being up all night. to Big Brother for coming up with a unique and interesting competition.
I failed miserably while playing along at home.
James was screwed by Janelle, but he CAN NOT go after her! Not yet, anyway
I can see him get her by nominating Will/Booger next week. Of course, he still has to win the HOH .
Yeah, I think that's how we'll see how smart James is.
If I were him, I'd apologize to Janelle, say he got caught up in the emotions, admit he doesn't like Chilltown that much and doesn't trust them, but that it was a good move to get rid of a floater and win Chilltown's word for a week.
At least he should do that, go along with everyone and vote off Diane, see who wins HoH.
I agree - I was amazed at how well Boogie did.
Like Will, I didn't realize that there would be phrases.
What was in the tubs next to the worms - looked like some sort of yogurt.
The challenges have been pretty good this year - nice to see them trying some new things (ahem, I'm looking at you, Survivor). Only the Golf challenge was a miserable failure.
My issue is not how James is playing the game but it's how he acts in the diary room. Unlike CT, he doesn't call himself out on things he does.
I think some people here don't really understand S6's strategies.
S6 has been targeting the floaters because they are the "wildcards" in the house. Floaters alliances and voting strategies change week to week. They are/were also stronger in numbers. Floaters have rode on the the coat tails of others in past seasons, and since this is the "All-Star" season neither S6 OR CT wants that to happen again. S6 also felt that since there were only 2 real members of CT (another reason to get rid of floaters), and 1 of the CT members (Will) does not do well at challenges, CT could wait and be dealt with later on in the game. They also think Will's heart isn't in it and will walk out the door instead of going to sequester.
Although Janelles not doing it for the same reasons, her putting up Diane and Erika (2 floaters) is exactly what their alliance wanted to do from the beginning.
And I'm not a big end-all-and-be-all S6 groupie. I would rather see Danielle walk away with it all.
I agree. He really came off as a whiny hypocrit.