Big Brother 8 8-14-07 *Possible Spoilers*

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Are you serious??? Amber willingly told Eric, who is technically her compition, a secret about her personal life. They're all playing a game. So you want to hold it against Eric for possibly considering using that info in the game...even though he never did and the house still doesn't know her secret. Its not like Eric blackmailed her with that info. He didn't force it out of her. She willingly opening her mouth and told him for some unknown reason.

Dick, on the other hand, outright personally attacks his other HGs...but that doesn't make him nearly as bad as Eric just for considering to use strategy to play a game???

 

She shouldn't have told Eric, I totally agree. But that conversation they showed with him telling ED about it... it was so cold and slimey it made my skin crawl! And just because he didn't tell anyone it yet... it's just because ED called him out. That doesn't change anything for me.

I can agree that ED's personal attacks are nasty, but I still think they're kinda obvious game play. He's just trying to be a jerk. A huge jerk. But he was calling them names, you know?

The difference was, Eric showed that he was ready to reveal something that would hurt someone outside of the game. That's terrible.

Sorry we disagree.

 

Something that said person had already revealed on camera (the whole house is on camera). She should have had no expectation that this was a secret anymore.

 

Bragging or posturing by Eric is a far cry from actually telling someone what she told to Eric.


His mistake was trusting someone else - someone who clearly isn't worth trusting.

 

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She thought it was a secret IN THE HOUSE, and there was no reason to think otherwise, other than you have know that people backstab all the time. She found out Eric planned on using the secret against her, she got pissed. Remove the whole aspect of what the secret was, and it is the exact reaction everyone would have in the house.

Your train of thought would indicate that there are no secrets in the house just because we, the viewing public, know them all. This isn't true. For example, Mrs. Robinson Alliance was a secret, and when the secret got out, it sent everyone in it home, (except Zach ).

 

Seriously, this would piss me off just as much. Amber gets all fiery because Eric plans on using her secret. I don't think there's any doubt that Eric is equally as pissed at Dick for backstabbing him just like he planned to backstab Amber.

What the secret is doesn't make a lick of difference to me. They were both supposed to be secrets, and they were both given up pretty easily.

 

I was only responding to how this secret was going to hurt her outside the game (i.e. with the boyfriend she lied to). That ship had sailed when she spoke that secret into the microphone she was wearing.

But on that subject, no, there's no real reason to expect that secrets can be kept inside the house, either. As soon as someone has more to gain by revealing than keeping it you should expect it to be exposed.

 

that's where I would disagree - he really didn't give up the secret, just gave up that there was a secret. Again, Eric telling ED the existance or plan of using the secret is a far cry from telling ED or anyone else the secret. I don't think it is clear that Eric was planning on backstabbing Amber.

 

And please remember that Amber telling Eric that secret and Eric telling Dick that all happened very early in the show. Eric could have just been "bonding" with Dick and trying to act like Dick acts with no intention of ever doing it.

 

That actually only happened like 2 weeks ago.

 

I thought it happened the first week or two - then I heard it happened a few weeks back.

I guess we'll never really know.

 

I too thought it happened early on when Eric was trying to allign with Dick...like week 2 or 3.

 

Well, I think we're disagreeing about two different things...

Eric wasn't wanting to reveal something that would hurt someone outside the game to hurt the someone outside the game, Eric was willing to reveal something to the players in the house that would discredit another player should that player have decided to get all "holy" about something.

Eric wasn't willing to dish it out to hurt cry-baby's boyfriend, Eric was willing to dish it out to "hurt" her.

 

I would agree with you though if he actually used it. But he didn't, and to me that shows that he has a conscience and morals. With CBS editting and ED's gameplay, the whole snippet we got when Eric said he knew something about Amber could have entirely been taken out of context for all we know. The statement could have been followed up by Eric saying...but I would never do that. I think, characterwise, it shows Eric having more morals than ED. While Eric had the THOUGHT to do something sneaky and underhanded it the game, he couldn't go through with it. But ED on the other hand CAN and HAS gone through with horrible personal attacks as part of his gameplay.

Also, Eric telling Amber's secret would have absolutely ZERO effect on her outside of the house. IF by chance that was a secret no one outside of the house knew...then AMBER (and CBS) is solely responsible for that info leaking outside of the BB house.

 

The captions in the show made it confusing. They said "1 week ago" and "2 weeks ago" when the whole thing was shown last week. I too initally thought it was "Week 1" until I looked at it again. Of course the captions could have been wrong.

 

As Werd2406 and RBlount pointed out already, I was only referring to how Dustin is being so arrogant thinking that the others would not vote to evict him.

Boy, by the other chatter in these BB threads, it's turning into the same type of arguments we had during BB6 with Janey, Howie, Kaysar, et al vs. The Nerd Heard. Except this time I may not be in Mikkel_Knight's side of the fence. Sorry Bro!