Big Brother 21 (Summer 2019) Live Feed and all *spoilers*

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  1. TriBruin

    TriBruin Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Funny, I thought it cleared up things up for me. I lost a whole lot of respect for Cliff last night (and Michie, but for different reasons.) If Cliff truly believes that Michie would ever take him to F2 over Holly (or, heck even Nicole), then he is an idiot and is not the game player I thought he might be. Cliff is the likely the only person that might get votes over Michie, and even that is debatable. I am assuming that, once Cliff made up his mind, Nicole decided to go along with it to keep harmony. At that point Tommy was going home either 2-0 or 2-1 (with Michie casting the deciding vote.)
     
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  2. jay_man2

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    Cliff is delusional.
     
  3. andyw715

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    At this point of the game (or when there was five) each of them should only be thinking about whom they would bring to the final 2. It's personal play mode time. Not "It's five weeks out, wanna make a final 2 deal"
     
  4. nyny523

    nyny523 Oy

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    They never should have cut Tommy.

    BIG mistake.

    Oy.
     
  5. NorthAlabama

    NorthAlabama tabasco rules

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    no veto ceremony yesterday, bb has decided to do it live, first up on thursday's show.

    michie laid out to nicole his decision to send cliff to jury, placing the blame on their contemplating a betrayal (!), confirming her fears, and of course cliff now knows, too. cliff plans to use the extra days in an attempt to guilt michie into sending holly to jury instead (good luck with that).
     
  6. dthmj

    dthmj Hinky TCF Club

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    Michie should send Holly to jury so that she would be a vote for him. I don't think Cliff will vote for Michie.
     
  7. series5orpremier

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    So not only are you not allowed to betray anyone in this game, you also are not allowed to have any internal thoughts contemplating betraying anyone (even those who have their own subjective definition of betrayal)? :rolleyes:

    Let's be honest (I just wish Michie would be). Regardless of anything Cliff or Nicole did or didn't do, Michie and Holly were going to go straight after them anyway once they ran out of other targets.
     
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  8. TriBruin

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    Yep. He is just trying to rationalize his decision? To whom though? To himself? Probably. To Cliff, maybe? To the jury? They won't ever see it. The fact is, Michie shouldn't even need to justify his decision. I guess Cliff is just too naive if he think Michie would honor his F2 "agreement" over taking Holly. But, to everyone else, this is most certainly the right decision for Michie's game.
     
  9. nyny523

    nyny523 Oy

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    The only person Michie can beat is Holly.

    It would be stupid of Cliff to think otherwise...
     
  10. TriBruin

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    You don't think he beats Nicole or Cliff? IMHO, if Michie is in the F2, he wins against anyone. He has been a Comp beast. For the most part he has been loyal to his alliances (excluding the break up the group of 8.) Unless this is a bitter jury, which I don't think it will be, I think he gets most votes. The only person who I think could be bitter is Christie. Even Tommy admitted it was a great game play.
     
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  11. SoBelle0

    SoBelle0 Go Big Blue!! TCF Club

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    I don't know. I think this Jury is going to say that he played a great game!
    They may not all 'like' him, but they do seem like the types that will give it to him for winning all the time and doing what he needed to do (even lying about them) to win.
     
  12. dthmj

    dthmj Hinky TCF Club

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    Everyone may hate him - including "America" - but he's played the best game, and deserves to win. I don't want him to win, because I hate the idea of rewarding someone like him. Nicole is very likable though - so maybe if she wins the next HoH she can win, but probably not. I'm pretty sure Michie's got this game won.
     
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  13. TriBruin

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    If Nicole wins final HOH, there is no way she takes Michie to F2 and she can probably beat Holly in the F2. But, Holly is probably going to take Michie. So it is now 2 against 1 (assuming Cliff goes home tomorrow.)
     
  14. Dnamertz

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    Exactly. Which is why it made no sense what Michie said (I think it was in the DR). Once word got out that Cliff/Nicole might eveict Holly, Michie said “at this point, even if Holly stays, he is definitely going after Cliff and Nicole”. Well of course, that was always going to be the case. Once it got down to the final 4 of Michie/Holly and Cliff/Nicole, his only targets were going to be Cliff and Nicole. It’s just him trying to justify it to himself or the viewers.
     
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  15. nyny523

    nyny523 Oy

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    Juries can be bitter.

    I think we may be surprised.
     
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  16. NorthAlabama

    NorthAlabama tabasco rules

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    michie & holly have formed a strategy for the 3-part final hoh against nicole (historically, part 1 is endurance, part 2 a mental challenge with a physical aspect, and part 3 a live q&a on finale night).

    once nicole drops, michie will throw the endurance comp to holly, leaving him to challenge nicole in part 2, where he would likely have a speed edge over holly. if they secure parts 1 and 2, and hold to their agreement to take one another to final 2, at that point nicole would be a goner.

    it probably didn't help that both nicole & cliff both told holly they'd vote for her over michie in jury, that's nice info to have when making a final 2 decision if it holds true.
     
  17. TriBruin

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    Not sure that it hurts Nicole and Cliff too much to revel that. I don't see Holly NOT taking Michie (even though Nicole is the better choice.) I guess the slight smarter thing would be to tell Holly "If you win HOH and take Michie, you will NEVER get my vote." Maybe she wavers a little bit, knowing that Michie is an automatic vote for her no matter what.

    At this point, all I can do is hope and pray Nicole somehow wins final HOH.
     
  18. jay_man2

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    I'm rooting for Nicole in final HOH.
     
  19. Dnamertz

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    Hopefully the mental aspect of part 2 will trip up Michie.
     
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  20. NorthAlabama

    NorthAlabama tabasco rules

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    michie won part 1 of the final hoh comp (not endurance), leaving holly vs. nicole for part 2.

    expect the unexpected - no part 1 endurance (as i'd picked up when julie said it would be shown in it's entirety sunday), some kind of puzzle-type comp, with michie and holly describing a treasure chest, and a tomb raider/indy jones theme.
     
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