Big Brother 21 (Summer 2019) Live Feed and all *spoilers*

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    jcondon

    jcondon Well-Known Member

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    Another fight apparently between Holly and Jackson. No idea how reliable/accurate this source is but it doesn't paint Holly in a very favorable light either. She picks a fight over him considering going on another reality show where the contestants are known to hook up? Why not wait until you are out of the house and see if you can stand each other in the real world? Worry about him hooking up on some other show if/when he applies and is accepted? Perhaps by then you will have moved on.

    'Big Brother 21': Jackson's Desire to Compete on 'The Challenge' Led To Another Fight With Holly
     
  2. Sep 9, 2019 #362 of 476
    jcondon

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    I hope Cliff and Nicole make the big move and vote out Holly. Seems like it would be better for their game then going head to head with Jackson and Holly. Tommy maybe helps them get Jackson out.

    Cliff and Nicole would probably do better in a final 3 against Tommy then Jackson IMO.

    I would be surprised though if they don't just follow the plan and vote out Tommy.
     
  3. Sep 9, 2019 #363 of 476
    realityboy

    realityboy Well-Known Member

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    Tommy & Christie were longtime friends and then she dated his aunt.
    Holly & Kat have met a few times on the pageant circuit.
    Jackson & Holly have a few friends in common, and he had followed her on Instagram for awhile until his ex made him unfollow her. They had never met.
     
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  4. Sep 9, 2019 #364 of 476
    jcondon

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    Thanks for that. I didn't know there was any connection between them.
     
  5. NorthAlabama

    NorthAlabama tabasco rules

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    first, the veto ceremony business: nicole uses the veto on cliff, holly is the renom, holly & tommy are on the block.

    nicole & cliff are having serious conversations on who to keep, and it now appears they are both leaning towards keeping tommy and breaking up the showmance, but the only thing that's confirmed at this point is that they've decided to work together this week so there isn't a tie.

    tommy has offered to throw the next hoh to nicole & cliff, then fight for the veto to help them evict michie.

    michie isn't campaigning very strongly to save holly. he tells nicole & cliff he wouldn't be here if it weren't for them, he loves them, and he understands it's all game going forward (hinting it's ok to send holly to jury).
     
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  6. dthmj

    dthmj Hinky TCF Club

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    pleasevoteouthollypleasevoteouthollypleasevoteouthollypleasevoteouthollypleasevoteouthollypleasevoteoutholly
     
  7. TriBruin

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    I do this come to pass. Not only is it the right decision for Cliff and Nicole, but I think it helps build some credibility with jury. It may not be enough for Nicole to win, but maybe enough for Cliff to beat Tommy.

    If they vote out Holly, then we have

    Cliff, Nicole, or Tommy as next HOH
    Veto winner controls the eviction, unless they are HOH.

    I think all three would vote out Miche if they had the chance. (Although Cliff may struggle with it.)

    Worst case is Miche wins veto and Cliff/Nichole/Tommy are on the block (depending on who HOH is). My guess is Miche votes out Cliff or Tommy, if Cliff is HOH. Nicole is likely safe and is probably has the $50K wrapped up right now.
     
  8. Squeak

    Squeak Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Yeah, because he is sick of her now....
     
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  9. NorthAlabama

    NorthAlabama tabasco rules

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    branden over at big bother network posted on this debate yesterday, and he makes valid points - there is no right or wrong this week, it's a decision between bad choices:

     
  10. TriBruin

    TriBruin Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Two things I would disagree with on his assessment.

    One, I don't think that Holly would be a bitter juror. In fact, I don't think this is going to be a bitter jury at all. Everyone, from what I have seen, generally likes and respects each other. They just know they are playing the game and that eventually nearly everyone is going to be voted out.

    Two, I am not sure that Tommy beats Cliff head to head. Cliff is very well liked and, quite frankly, neither has done much in the game except hang on. You can almost argue that Cliff has done more to survive since he had to fight his way back in to the game early on.
     
  11. tivotvaddict

    tivotvaddict CreativelyChallenged

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    Unpopular opinion: Nicole beats both Cliff and Tommy, loses to Michie.

    In terms of knowing each other, I think someone said Jackson actually knew Kat outside the house too, that they met once before.
     
  12. verdugan

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    One thing I noticed is that the list of Cons include a lot of “could”.

    I say that voting out Holly is still the way to go.
     
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  13. NorthAlabama

    NorthAlabama tabasco rules

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    i agree, holly needs to go to jury, but i'm still not convinced they should keep tommy over michie. either way, we'll know soon enough, the veto will decide this next week.
     
  14. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey TCF Club

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    Plus he'd have her vote in the jury if he made the finals.
     
  15. jcondon

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    I freaking hate Michie. However if he is final two vs ANYONE he deserves to win. He was a beast in comps and seemingly not as hated in the house as he is in by viewers. Tommy doesn't deserve to win over him. I guess bitter jury members could screw him but I don't think so this year.
     
  16. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey TCF Club

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    Exactly what I think. He'll get a ton of respect from the jury, many of whom were in alliances with him. He wins if he's there at the end. If he's not, it's up for grabs.
     
  17. verdugan

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    Sadly I agree. I think he's a horrible human being, but he has played better than any of the other 4 left in the house.

    I hope he doesn't make it to final 3.
     
  18. realityboy

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    I’m out of town this week so no feeds, but it sounds like the tide turned against Tommy last night. Nicole was still conflicted and was calling a house meeting when feeds cut for tonight’s show.
     
  19. Stylin

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    Yep
     
  20. Squeak

    Squeak Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Nicole won HOH
     
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