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Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Fool Me Twice, Jul 8, 2011.
I liked the way Enzo was so sure he would be famous & sought after when he left the house & then went on to win nothing & fade immediately from the spotlight.
Sure they didn't have the same realtionship as Shelly had with Jeff/Jordan, but the bottom line is he did go back on his word. Just as you say "Jeff made the right decision getting rid of Russell"...Shelly also made the right decision to get rid of Jeff. Get rid of the opposition before they get rid of you.
There is NO way Jeff or Jordan ever would have choosen Shelly over each other. I'm not sure why Jeff/Jordan are expecting other houseguests to be so loyal as to take a couple to the final three at the expense of that houseguest's shot at winning. What were the going to tell Shelly if they all made it to final three..."sorry, our friendship was great up until this point, but we're taking the money...goodbye".
[Edited because the discussion is likely getting tiresome to most. Now about strategy!]
Where Shelly really screwed up was in trying to please production by having an eviction night surprise at Jeff and Jordan's expense. Had she been open about her intention to keep Dani in the game, she would have been able to keep her alliance with Jeff and Jordan intact, then looked for an opportunity to have Jeff evicted later in the game.
Jeff and Jordan constantly offered to renegotiate their deal with Shelly if she felt it wasn't to her advantage. She could have gone with a final 6 deal at any time. Then she could have voted out Jeff when he was sitting next to Rachel and not pissed anyone off.
Great conversation between Adam and Rachel of all people to talk about the situation, "final" alliances, and prepping for the last competitions.
Shocker! Rachel won the purely athletic comp against the three slugs.
I listened to Adam's monologue last night (in the backyard by himself) and he vowed that he was with Rachel and Jordan until the end. If that's true, then Jordan is safe too. If he flips again (and why not?), then she would go up as a replacement nom if Adam were to win POV and take Porsche down, the he and Porsche could vote her out.
Kalia is probably R/J's target this week.
When it cut out it looked like Rachel and Adam were in the lead, Jordan 3rd and Kalia last. I wonder how close Jordan was at the end. The smart move would have been to let her win instead of Rachel.
Rachel won. I think she will put up Kalia & Porsche. If one of them win the veto, she'll have to put up Adam. Then it might be a 1 to 1 vote with Rachel breaking the tie. I was kind of hoping Adam would win so he could put Kalia & Porsche up himself but this way will work, too. I hope Kalia goes to jury house to be with her idol, Danielle.
I know Jeff will be happy to see Shelley walk through the door.
I'd take Porsche out. She's good in physical comps and reasonably good in the mental ones plus she is closer to Adam than Kalia.
Now I'm thinking that Adam was probably the closest to winning after Rachel. Maybe her & Jordan should have made a deal with Adam about not putting them up & then let him win this one so both Rachel & Jordan can play for the next HOH. As it is whoever stays out of Kalia & Porsche might win & put Jordan & Rachel up.
Porsche is closer to Adam especially now that Kalia voted to evict him. Porsche tried to cover for her but Rachel outed Kalia's vote & Adam is not happy.
Most likely the next HOH will be trivia?? If so, Kalia has been really good at those games. It would be smart to take Kalia out. YOu take the chance with predicting what kind of game the next HOH comp will be.
Next comp is likely trivia, then the last is the 3 part to determine the final 2. I would personally go after Kalia. When she won her first HoH, I thought she was guessing on the questions and got lucky. After seeing her do that a couple times, I just think she has a great memory with fast recall. She is probably the best player this season. She hasnt floated, and when their team had power they took out the biggest threats.
Porche is a good player. Shes 2nd to Rachel in physical comps, probably even with Rachel on trivia (both below Kalia imho), Mental toughness I would say she is third (Kalia and Rachel in 1st-2nd),im not sure on any of them for puzzles.
Jordan and Adam are pretty much just residents. While Jordan may not have floated back and forth like Adam, if she were not in the house this summer, the only thing we would have missed was her votes (which basically made Jeffs count as 2). Shes nice to look at, and entertaining to listen to, but she just hasnt really impacted the game. Jordan won an HoH where all the vets threw it after she was ahead of the newbies. Adam won a PoV where it was said 1-2 people were throwing it.
If it goes the way I see, Kalia will be the target. I almost would bet production tilts advantage so she wins PoV and Porche leaves. Kalia wins next HoH. She puts up Jordan and Rachel. Rachel wins, Adam gets put up and leaves.
Final 3 of Kalia, Rachel, and Jordan. Anyone but Jordan wins the 3 day HoH comp. Winner takes Jordan to the finals where they win $500,000 over Jordan.
I had heard grumblings that R/J were going to tell Kalia that they were voting out Adam, all the while voting out Shelly in hopes of exposing to Adam where Kalia truly stood. Not sure if it actually went down that way, but it sure looks like it. Good move if so.
I was also thinking the next veto comp might be the trivia+physical OTEV comp since they haven't done that yet.
"Bring OTEV the second person evicted from the house" and they have to search all over the back yard for names and run back. If so, Porsche has a good shot at that and Rachel will have to put Adam up against Kalia. Votes go 1-1 and Rachel evicts Kalia.
Rachel has a good shot at winning that kind of Veto as well.
She still gets to play.
And even if Adam goes up, Kalia goes home.
Either Porsche or Kalia are leaving next - the only question is who controls the decision...
Not if Adam wins veto and chooses to use it. Then Jordan would go home.
I doubt he would do that though.
It it is an OETV veto, I seriously doubt Adam will win it against Rachel and Porsche...
what's OETV or OTEV, both of which I have seen posted here
OTEV is VETO spelled backwards... it's always a veto competition they use near the end of the game.
IIRC, this is the competition where a fake looking Easter Island statue has the HGs go find specific items or names. Each round, the last person to return is eliminated.