Big Brother 13 Final 09-14-11

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  1. nyny523

    nyny523 Oy

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    I just read an interview Adam gave where he admits he saw Shelly's vote, and that is why he opted to give Porsche his vote...kind of a pity vote for the newb.
     
  2. MonsterJoe

    MonsterJoe Travels for Food

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    Ya you've been riding her all season. The energy you put into perpetuating your hatred for her is amusing, considering it's a game-show that is over...but hey, have at it.

    1. You can parse it however you like, however, the same could be done for any guest in the house no matter what the outcome. The score is the score.

    2. coulda woulda shoulda. "if"s don't count for anything. She was a big target throughout the game...mostly because she made people hate her. She overcame that...bonus points, in my scorebook.

    3? obviously not.

    4? I think you've got your tinfoil hat on too tight - regardless, she still had to win that POV.

    5??. I don't understand how you make an argument against her based on things that never happened or could have happened...You cleared up nothing - the only myths here are the game that you say "could have" happened, but never did in reality.
     
  3. Snappa77

    Snappa77 RUDEBWOY

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    Put my replies in bold
     
  4. MonsterJoe

    MonsterJoe Travels for Food

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    EPIC SMEEK! ;)
     
  5. dirtypacman

    dirtypacman Coming and going

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    I agree with Snappa77 and MonsterJoe... Rachel not only played better in the competitions but also better game play inside the house. A runner up is a runner up and Porsche proved she is a dam good runner up :)

    As to my comment previously about Rachel I have changed my tune a bit. I think she is just stupid enough not to understand how she comes off to people. Even Brendon said it right "She is like a rhino in a antique store" She can't get out of her own way most of the time. She may be a ***** but she's a richer ***** today lol.

    Now finally Dani - Oh Dani girl - you miserable woman you. I actually really liked you in the past. I gave you the benefit of the doubt for the better part of the season. But to see the way she reacted to being in the jury and continued to act all the way till the finale shows she is way more an actual witch then any other person in the house minus her father. Evil dick may be evil and an ass but he still keeps an air of likability to him, Dani does not seem to have inherited that trait.
     
  6. pmyers

    pmyers Well-Known Member

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    This thread has some awesome zings about Dani! love them!
     
  7. Shaunnick

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    Rachel sucks.

    That being said, I am glad she won. You can make all the arguments you want to about her being helped along, or that circumstances were in her favor, or that there are competitors in the house as good as she is, it doesn't matter. Dani and Porsche's behavior has been atrocious. Porsche trying to sabotage food, Dani's classless actions. Khalia's only problem was she was more annoying than Rachel, and how you pull that off, I do not even know. You may not like Rachel, I didn't, and even though I think better of her now I never want to see her again.

    I would rather have had her win than Dani or Porsche. Even over Khalia, and Adam, and Brendan, who I think even less of now. In fact, this may have been one of the worst casts of BB of all time. So it is no shock to me that I am happy Rachel won. You should be, too.
     
  8. pmyers

    pmyers Well-Known Member

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    All I know is that this show better come back in HD next season, or I seriously think I'm out. It really was tough for me to even want to watch the first episode but eventually I got into it. Not sure I'll make the effort to watch if they can't make the effort to modernize.....especially because the equipment is obviously already there being that After Dark on Showtime is ALREADY IN HD!!!
     
  9. SoBelle0

    SoBelle0 Go Big Blue!!

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    Never thought I'd be sooo happy to see Big Red in the winner's circle!! She really played HARD! I don't care how it's spun. True, being a winner puts a target on you, so she responded by continuing to win. Vicious cycle... perhaps? But, then when she also played some social game - and kept her ego/bravado down - I was pretty impressed. Didn't know she had it in her. :)

    Way to go, Rachel!!

    They both had good answers for the jury. And, pretty good speeches, albeit extremely repetitive. Sheesh! And, certainly I could have gone for more flashback scenes and time in the jury house... It really should be two hours, at least. That crazy show! It just sucks me in.
     
  10. jcondon

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    I also agree with the 3 of you. Porsche didn't even get ONE question in the final round right. 50/50 over what 6 questions and got them ALL wrong?


    6 is more then 4 in my book.

    Several other house guests just gave up too easy. Jordan and Adam refused to put up with much discomfort at all. Legs are hurting a bit. I am going to give up. Seriously for 500K you can't do a bit more?


    I personally don't care for either of them but out of who was left Rachel deserved the cash and got it.

    I personally think Adam and Jordan are much better people but they didn't deserve to win the 500K or second place either.
     
  11. TheMerk

    TheMerk Always Bid First

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    Very satisfying season.
     
  12. pmyers

    pmyers Well-Known Member

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    If I was Rachel I would have brought up how Porsche was Dani's puppet and even admitted it during that Veto ceremony when she said "This is what Dani would have wanted".
     
  13. Dnamertz

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    Wow, you are clueless. I don't hate Rachel, but she was probably my least favorite HG of the season (once Dick left)...especially after the first few weeks. I actually defended her last season...I found her annoying, and overly dramatic, but I didn't see why everyone hated her. This year, it got old. But I don't dislike her...I started rooting against her the week of Pandoras Box.

    The only real hatred I see here are the comments about Dani, and some about Kalia (OK, she talks a lot...we get it).

    I didn't say she didn't win, I said she didn't play the superior game eveyone claims she did.

    Her personality didn't make her a threat...sometimes that makes you the person you want to take the finals (like Russell in Survivor). Fact is, she wasn't the target as long as Brendon and Jeff were still there (proven by the fact that Brendon and Jeff were targeted ahead of her).

    3?
    Obviously yes, in the fact that some of the jury members mentioned this as a reason why they dislike her. I didn't see any comments from the jury about Porsche being mean to people. Now, in this case it didn't bother enough of the jury to cost her the game, but in my mind her attitude makes her less deserving.

    There are a lot of tinfoil hats to go around, as even some Rachel fans were commenting that the producers seemed to be influencing the game.

    I did no such thing...is this even in response to my post? I didn't make any "what-if" arguments other than the fact that she had a definite vote on the jury in Brendon. My comments had to do with reality...her not "kicking butt" in competitions, her not being the main target until late in the season, her poor attitude, and some luck.
     
  14. Dnamertz

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    All she was doing was voting out the biggest threat (Jeff) and doing it in Dani's honor. How is that differnet than Rachel yelling "this is for you Brendon"?
     
  15. Dnamertz

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    If he said this, I don't believe he meant it seriously (he was also making faces at the camera during the vote count). The self declared "biggest fan of BB" would not throw away his vote and potentially affect the outcome by not voting for who he belives deserved it. Even if he saw Shelly's vote, he didn't know for sure how Jeff and Jordan voted...there are always surprise votes.

    He also believes he could have beat Rachel.
     
  16. Ment

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    In what world would Jeff and Jordan throw their votes to Porsche. Both of them think she did next to nothing to deserve her spot. I suppose you were thinking there was a possibility of a surprise vote of Kalia to Rachel too?

    Adams knows that a vote for Porsche when the outcome wasn't in doubt would lead to many interviews.
     
  17. MonsterJoe

    MonsterJoe Travels for Food

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    You're a very passionate person.
     
  18. jradford

    jradford The Jerkstore called

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    Both seem completely ridiculous to me. Only one person can win, do you REALLY care about someone's honor after they've been evicted? With Rachel, it's her fiance so there's a little bit of leeway, I GUESS, but it doesn't make it any less vomit-inducing to me.
     
  19. nmiller855

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    Daniells is certainly a bitter person & was able to spread her hatred to a few followers. Her last comment was just her showing her true colors. Maybe her relationship, or lack of, with her father has caused this but I really hope we don't ever have to hear from her again.
    I hope this is the last time they bring in people from past seasons except to host competitions. I'm sure the newbies argument will be that they were at a disadvantage playing with veterans & they have a valid complaint.
     
  20. nyny523

    nyny523 Oy

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    Well, he did say it according to the words coming out of his mouth.

    I am sure he knew that once he saw Shelly's vote, that his would be meaningless. Of course he knew Jeff and Jordan would vote Rachel over Porsche. Everyone in the house knew that J/J were in an alliance with Rachel AND that both J/J thought Porsche was useless in the game. Adam knew it - he was in the same alliance with them!

    Keep in mind too - there is a LOT of stuff that goes on that most people miss unless they are following the live feeds. Things happen and are said that never make the final edit, or are twisted in the final edit of the show. For those of us following ALL the action, there was NO doubt that Rachel would have J/J/B votes. And Rachel knew it too. That is why when she heard Shelly's vote, she covered her face - that was the moment she knew she won the game (before Jordan's vote was even pulled).
     

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