Better Call Saul S5E03 "The Guy For This" OAD 3/2/20 (Breaking Bad Spoilers OK)

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  1. pdhenry

    pdhenry Oh, my aching back

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    My take is that she was sincere (based on what little we know of her past) but the guy's comments hit hard due to her scams with Jimmy.
     
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  2. dwatt

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    Wasn't the con of getting Huel off easy with Jimmy travelling everywhere writing character references and operating the phone bank all her idea?
     
  3. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    Yes, she sees herself becoming Jimmy. (She might have been sincere, but her motive in sharing was pretty cynical.) I suspect that will be their exit strategy for Kim...she just can't take who she is with Jimmy, and has to leave. Which ironically might be the final straw for him in his transformation into Saul.
     
  4. photoshopgrl

    photoshopgrl Nerd Fashionista TCF Club

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    Hmmm I disagree again lol. I don't think her motive was cynical. She was driving home after having basically told him he was getting booted no matter what. She felt bad for treating him that way and that's why she went online to find him houses. He's out no matter what happens. I think she was sincerely trying to help him.
     
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  5. Rob Helmerichs

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    I agree, but I also think that when that didn't work she resorted to the story about her past in order to manipulate him into going along, and that's why she felt so bad when he called her on it. Because on some level, she realized he was right.

    I'm not saying she's become Jimmy, just that she sees herself becoming Jimmy and REALLY doesn't like it.
     
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  6. Tony_T

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    She does want to get back to her pro-bono clients, so it’s possible she lied to try to “connect” with the old guy. (I also thought when she went back that we would see a suicide, and then I though that he may actually shoot her when she crossed the property line)
     
  7. hefe

    hefe Rebus Philbin

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    Right, that's what I'm saying...she has shown that she will bend the rules, the law, her morality...and it does bother her and she wants to believe she is better than that. But when she's called out, she has to admit inside that there's truth to it. She may decide enough is enough and she can't let herself be dragged any further into Jimmy's world.
     
  8. hummingbird_206

    hummingbird_206 Retired

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    I think Kim's internal conflict is her own and really doesn't have much to do with Jimmy. She wants the power, money, and nice things that she can get by being a big shot in a big firm. But she also wants to help poor people because she was once one of them. She's struggling internally trying to have it all.

    I think her story about her childhood is rooted in the truth. Maybe not those exact details, but probably pretty close. She grew up poor. She worked in the mail room at HHM and had a large debt from putting herself through law school. Now she realizes that she sold her soul to the devil and she's having a hard time dealing with that...the devil being both the high salary at the fancy firm and the cons. Because both are tools she has used to get what she wants. She doesn't love the firm, nor does she love Jimmy. She likes them, but she doesn't love them. I think she's going to leave both behind to pursue what she does love, which is helping the poor people.
     
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  9. hefe

    hefe Rebus Philbin

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    Of course it's her own, but it is enabled by Jimmy, and that's going to come to a head.
     
  10. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    Absolutely. He's a bad influence.
     
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  11. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    I also thought she'd peek through the window and see that he blew his brains out and then she'd feel incredibly guilty for the way she treated him.
    I think the story she told was true and that she was sincere. But when it didn't work to manipulate the guy, that's when she realized she was telling the story for a selfish reason. She also realized that what he said earlier in the day was largely correct, even if he got some of the details wrong. He said she gives a little to charity and volunteers at a soup kitchen once a year to help her feel good about herself. Actually she does pro bono legal work, but the point is the same. She's doing that to assuage her guilt from all the other work she has to do (especially the work for Mesa Verde that she's apparently learned to loathe).

    Some very cool/interesting details from the podcast:
    1. The ants were all real. No CGI at all. Amazing how they were able to do that. Also, the "street" scene where they shot the ants was a set they built specifically for filming that scene. It was up on a table so that the cameras could get up close and come at it from lower angles.

    2. The ant scene was shot simultaneously with the Hank/Gomie scene. The feeds from the two different shoots were coming into Video Village simultaneously and the production crew was mesmerized by the ants. They said it must be the first time in Bob Odenkirk's career that he was upstaged by insects.

    3. The daylight scene between Kim and the old man was shot late in the day and they did all the shots pointing at the old man first. By the time they finished, they had run out of light and had to shoot Kim's side of that conversation on a completely different day (during the filming of a future episode). It's so amazing they can do stuff like that and then make it look seamless through editing and post processing.
     
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  12. Bierboy

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    Hank looks like he's pregnant...
     
  13. kaszeta

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    But Hank's always had a bit of a beer gut.
     
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  14. Bierboy

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    Yeah, but now, instead of being 5 months along, he looks like he's 8 months...
     
  15. mooseAndSquirrel

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    Schraderbrew!
     
  16. Tony_T

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  17. mattyro7878

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    I thought Kim's return to the old man was gonna work. He sees her as lying and manipulative when in fact she went the extra mile for him; offered to help him move and was pretty empathatic in regards to the emotional toll of moving. When the old man gave her his opinion it could very well have been "young lady you are the first person to show me any decency".
     
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  18. photoshopgrl

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    In all honesty, it should have worked. He's being 10000% unreasonable at this point. He has no legal leg to stand on and he knows it. Yeah it's a bad deal but such is life. I'm not sure why he thinks he can just continue to refuse all offers and stay there.
     
  19. hefe

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    The answer is unsatisfying, but it's because it serves the story to do it that way. ;)
     
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  20. Tony_T

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    Exactly. Kim said he already lost his case (“Adverse Possession”).
    In the real world, that would be that and the sheriff would evict him.
    Another real world option would be to build the Call Center around him.
     
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