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Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by innocentfreak, Jul 15, 2011.
And you know this how??
Well, there's this:
Also, as I posted above, and will reiterate:
Margret Schmidt, Vice President of User Experience at TiVo (@tivodesign on Twitter) also answered the question about whether or not these TV’s will be able to stream from TiVo:
“It does not.”
(That's pretty clear.)
I suppose since streaming (from Premiere to Premiere) isn't an official feature yet (but we know it's coming) there's the *possibility* that it may arrive for these sets too... but I certainly wouldn't gamble on that if it's a deciding feature for you. We're talking about TiVo here (and they've pretty much lost any street cred when it comes to backwards compatibility and polishing features.) Throw Best Buy into the mix and things just get confusing. I would only buy this set based on what it offers today, not based on any promise (or even "soft confirmation" that they are "working towards" anything.)
Did you read my post? You seem to be responding to someone who suggested people buy this TV. I made no such suggestion.
slowbiscuit indicated that the TVs are not going to stream from other Tivos. Do they currently? No. Will they eventually? The (unfortunate) fact is, no one knows.
According to Zatz, BB would like to get the TVs to support streaming from TiVos, as well as RVU from DirecTV.
Maybe they never will (given, as you say, TiVo's track record), but to state that they won't categorically is not accurate, assuming slowbiscuit does not work for TiVo or Insignia.
Yes, I read your post. And I stand by my answer.
shwru980r was wondering about the nuances of how TiVo would restrict the streaming between Premiere and Insignia TV, so it couldn't be used to "broadcast video to other homes or apartments." The conversation here then went off on a (further) tangent about how it would (hypothetically) be handled.
It'd be handled the same way TiVo handles MRV or (eventual) streaming to other Premieres, I'd imagine.
And yet, I was agreeing with slowbiscuit. These TV's do NOT include streaming, might not, probably won't, we don't know... but for the time being, we know for sure this isn't a feature.
You asked "And you know this how?"
So I responded how we know this. TiVo employees, one who administrates their Facebook page, and one whose title is "Vice President of User Experience" have told us so, pretty much categorically.
So hypothethizing and speculating how streaming might work, hypothetically, one day, in the future, in is very much an exercise in pointless frustration. And really, all it ends up doing at this time is confuse this conversation, as if it's actually a feature. When it's not. And very well might not ever be, at least with these particular TV sets. Wishing and hypothesizing doesn't make it so.
That is not what slowbuscuit said. He said "will not" not "does not". Clearly, it isn't currently a feature. None of us know that it will not be a feature in the future. TiVoDesign did not say "will not", she said "does not".
Okay, but shwru980r asked, "If this TV streamed from a Tivo, would they just allow it to stream from any Tivo without regard to the account? If the TV is not limited to a specific Tivo account, then you could access any Tivo as long as you could connect the TV to the corresponding network. One person could effectively broadcast video to other homes or apartments. I don't think this would be legal."
...which got a few responses.
And then shwru980r followed up with, "Would Tivo be willing to do that for free? There is no subscription fee for the TV. This would allow a customer to buy the TV instead of a second Tivo."
To that, slowbiscuit asked "Does any of this matter?"
To that, I'll reiterate the same answer I'd said from the beginning: "No."
We might as well be discussing how the TiVo Premieres (but not S3's or TiVoHD's) "will" handle the griddling of my pancakes.
So any tested one of these TVs yet?
Anyone seen a hands on review anywhere?
Our local BB has it set up on display including a network connection. I played with it for a few minutes, just looking at the menus and trying out Pandora. Seems to be a good inteface, but need to use it quite a bit more to say.
Did not like the remote at all. It is backlit, but the markings on the keys are poor, and the buttons too small for my fat fingers.
these are on-sale now at Best Buy. I'm guessing that means they're not selling well? For the 42" model it now seems like a good price (regardless of the Tivo/not-Tivo support) for an LED-backlit 120Hz unit.
been looking at the sunday best buy ads and havent seen them advertise/push them yet
Reports of Vizio "smart" televisions having reboot issues are widespread enough that I ended up not buying one when we decided to purchase a new TV - I went with an LG instead. Vizios are supposed to have superb picture quality and offer full LED backlighting at a price point where most others offer only side-lighting - but, in the end, a TV that turns itself off for 30 seconds at a time fails as a TV.
There was a firmware update for the Vizio TVs. A coworker has a couple of them and Vizio sent him a USB stick to upgrade the firmware. Since the upgrade he has not been having issues.
Yeah, I couldn't imagine that the "reboot issues" would last forever. That sounds like something that would be fixed pretty quickly by firmware, and if not, every unit would be returned.
They lasted for many months for me. I just plugged the set back in after a few month hiatus and it received two updates. In limited usage, it hasn't rebooted. But the apps are still tedious and I don't like the remote.