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Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by innocentfreak, Jul 15, 2011.
They do collect taxes in my state (Washington).
I actually think most people don't want to buy an extra box or pay a subscription. Most of my friends just want to buy a TV and hook it up. Having the Netflix streaming and the guide are just a plus.
And in New York.
Can you tell us more about this "horrible experience?" Was this covered in a previous post here, or a blog post? I ask because I saw a friend's Vizio set this weekend, it had a bunch of Internet apps and connectivity, and I thought it was pretty cool. Didn't really dive in too much to explore the details, though.
Margret Schmidt, Vice President of User Experience at TiVo (@tivodesign on Twitter) also answered the question about whether or not these TV’s will be able to stream from TiVo:
“It does not.”
I suppose since streaming (from Premiere to Premiere) isn't an official feature yet (but we know it's coming) there's the *possibility* that it may arrive for these sets too... but I certainly wouldn't gamble on that if it's a deciding feature for you. We're talking about TiVo here (and they've pretty much lost any street cred when it comes to backwards compatibility and polishing features.) Throw Best Buy into the mix and things just get confusing. I would only buy this set based on what it offers today, not based on any promise (or even "soft confirmation" that they are "working towards" anything.)
Future features are always subject to change, and removal, for any one of a number of a reasons, and even if it has been officially announced. Until a feature ships, don't buy it for that feature.
I was kind of hoping this thread would die, as this is really not a Tivo since it lacks Tivo specific features (ie. MRV) and is completely branded Insignia without any Tivo logos, as far as I can tell. But I have to agree with your point -- Tivo's time frame for delivering on "future" features is somewhere between forever and infinity. Talk to anyone that bought a Premiere with the promise of a working HD interface. Call me unimpressed and underwhelmed (again) with another one of Tivo's half-baked products.
Well the HD interface works. That's what all my Premieres are set to use. The problem is that all the screens aren't using an HD interface.
Nobody has one of these yet?
Sounds like an epic fail when even the most dedicated Tivo users won't bite the bullet.
I don't know about you but I don't just buy TVs because some new model has been released.
I only buy one when I need a new one which in the last 28 years since I purchased my first one has only happened 3 times (which includes the my first TV) and hopefully another decade will go by before I have to buy another one.
The fact that no one on this board has purchased one of these less than a week after they were released tells me nothing about how good or bad these smart TVs are.
Well, it "works" but it's slow, is completely dependent on an internet connection, and in fact can freeze if/when that connection gets flakey. The inconsistency of the graphic elements, not all in HD... is just a kick in the side.
I stick with the SDUI, and the iPad app. Keeps me saner and happier.
Please, let's not go off the rails. "Epic fail?" According to the thread title these just started to be offered 3 days ago. We're still learning what they can and cannot do. I'm not saying they will be a slam dunk, but to throw around words like "epic fail" this quickly just devolves the entire discussion to silliness.
I've touched on it in a few posts (like this one) and with comments here and there. The Vizio set I have runs Yahoo widgets. In theory, they offer a nice selection. But in daily usage, they're too slow and crashy to bother with. Worse, the TV will spontaneously reboot even without any app interaction while just watching TV. That's my main gripe (and GigaOm/NewTeeVee experienced similar with a different model). But I also dislike the remote and speakers. It's a smaller set, like 23" - was our temporary bedroom TV and will now live in the guest bedroom or basement (as my lab TV).
For every new Tivo unit that has been released somebody on this forum went out and bought it the very first day (or before). The fact that it hasn't happened yet doesn't sit well with me. If the Premiere had been a better product I bet someone (or several) would have bought one by now.
Is there a display in the store? You would think at the very least someone would have played with one.
If you've already got a Tivo, the TV interface and the apps are redundant.
Yeah, i thought i'd go down to my local Best Buy (Valley Stream NY) to play with one. I couldn't find it so I asked a sales person, who showed me a half working Premiere and said that's all he could think of, even when I said it was Insignia made, with a TiVo interface.
Well, it's a TV. Folks don't buy TV's as often as they do set-top boxes. It may very well be a disappointing product in the long run but to call it an "epic fail" three days after it's out, simply because no one here has reported that they purchased one, is kinda silly, that's all.
It's a TV and it's really not aimed at "dedicated TiVo users". It's just a way for Best Buy's Insignia brand to get competitive Smart TV features that are easy to use without having to build it themselves.
Once the TV can interact with a TiVo, say by streaming from a Premier, I suspect a number of people on this board would purchase one.
At this point it is just a TV. If inhere in the market for a tv, I would consider it - but I am not going to run out and buy one.