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Be honest, with recent changes, would you return a TiVo still within return period?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by sangs, May 13, 2018.

  1. tim_m

    tim_m Active Member

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    No way, my only other dvr option for cable is terrible. My cable company Charter is about to release a new worldbox 2.0 that still can't even compete with my Roamio. 4 tuners, no WH capable. 1TB drive. The only app it will have is netflix.
     
  2. alexb

    alexb Active Member TCF Club

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    Nope, not at all, wife loves the TiVo after ditching the x1 18mo ago.
    She would prefer the media center and extenders came back,but this is next best thing.
    I love how open TiVo is with development if you just ask....
     
  3. computersteve

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    Yes, I would.
     
  4. ManeJon

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    NO
     
  5. RMSko

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    This. Skipmode is the primary reason I use TiVo and it’s completely worth it to me. After all, it’s all about personal preference. Now, if they get rid of skipmode, then I may have a different answer.

    As for TOS, what TiVo should do at end of life, is offer a transfer of lifetime to a new unit, even if it’s at a substantially reduced price. I’d be surprised if they don’t do that anyway. Also, it seems to me that TiVo is now asking for a repeat of the issue they created with the original lifetime. I was one of those users and due to their failure to adequately describe the TOS they offered all original users the ability for a one-time transfer of lifetime service (which I did, to a Bolt+). If they stop supporting those units, it seems to me that it’s a lawsuit waiting to happen and so it wouldn’t surprise me if TiVo once again offers the ability to transfer the lifetime to a new box.
     
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  6. SullyND

    SullyND W: 19-14 TCF Club

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    TiVo “bought” a lot of good will from me when my Roamio got skipmode. They’d have been in their rights to keep it a Bolt only feature, or charge to enable it on older machines.
     
  7. sangs

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    Well let's see, the Apple/Foxconn marriage has given us, oh, 11 years of iPhones. Arris has given us the FiOS Quantum DVR. Maybe the worst DVR it's ever been my (dis)pleasure to use. I was specifically referencing Arris, one of the rumored future TiVo producers. So the comparison is not only invalid, it makes zero sense. I don't care WHERE a product is made, I care WHO is making the product. Just seems like you're taking an unnecessary generalized shot at Chinese production, and considering what great products iPhones are, a silly uninformed shot at that.
     
  8. JoeKustra

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    Interesting emotional interpretation of simple facts.
     
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  9. sangs

    sangs Active Member

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    Yeah, how dare I offer a rebuttal to something that was thrown at me as some sort of authoritative mic drop, when it had nothing to do with what I was saying. And God knows you - and many others - never do such things in these forums.
     
  10. GaryD9

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    I think that'd be a matter of opinion. Compared to iPhones, I've seen much better products out of China. ;)
     
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  11. ah30k

    ah30k Well-Known Member

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    What?? Ted was supporting the partnership between Apple and a Chinese manufacturer, not taking a shot at it. He wasn't implying Mex was any better than China. He was just saying that companies using outside help in mfg is not a bad thing. Aiming for equivalence, not superiority.
     
  12. JoeKustra

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    Please consider, this thread starts with "Be honest". :)
     
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  13. CloudAtlas

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    Please. The iPhone contains many Apple designed custom manufactured chips including the 10 nm SoC containing 2HP/4HE core CPU, integrated multi-core GPU, Neural engine, and motion co-processor. The manufacturing of the chips alone is impressive. Most other products contain off the shelf chips.

    You don’t have to like Apple or the iPhone but the manufactured product, based on Apple designs, is world class. Just shows how far manufacturers like TSMC have come.
     
  14. GaryD9

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    I'm not sure if I should be more amused that someone seriously responded to what was obviously a joke (note the winking smile) or if the obvious Apple Worship is more amusing. (Oh, wait.. I forgot that Apple invented humor, sarcasm, and jokes. I hope they don't sue me for patent infringement. Please pardon me, Lord Jobs. ;) )
     
  15. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    I considered that and it really put me off. Where's the fun of being honest? :) Seriously, what's the point of that admonishment anyway? Presumably most of us are "honest" when responding to a poll, and does anyone think saying "Be honest" will prevent the rest from lying? Here's an idea: Print "Be honest" at the top of all forms such as tax returns. :D
     
  16. dmurphy

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    I've got a pair of Roamios and a BOLT+, all with all-in subscriptions.
    Also have a half dozen or so Minis in both 4K and non-4K flavors.

    And I don't care one whit about the "net present value" of any of it. Its value, to me, in its functionality and enjoyment are WAY more than what they could sell for on eBay.

    So "being honest" - I don't care if the resale value drops to $1. They're not going anywhere, and I expect TiVo to be here for a good, long time. I couldn't do what I do without them.

    TiVo lets me enjoy my backyard ... I come outside, press the power-on button on the TiVo remote, and the entire world is at my fingertips. I couldn't do that any other way.
     

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  17. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    Think you may be too optimistic about TiVo being here for a "good, long time". But judging by the wealth implied by your backyard photo, I assume you could find other ways to have "the entire world at your fingertips". Nice subtle brag, BTW. :p
     
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  18. wizwor

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    We should really start referring to the company as Rivo because it's clear who is driving the bus. This is of concern because Rovi has a history of redefining Lifetime and disregard for 'All In' customers. That is what is going on here.

    While I would not spend $850 on an all in Bolt under these terms, I would not send my $200 all in Roamios back. It took me a long time to buy TiVos because I was waiting for price to match risk. Now that price is coming down, risk is on the rise. I currently have five all in TiVos and two Minis. I am probably done purchasing TiVos.
     
  19. ah30k

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    Please, what history does Rovi have in this regard?
     
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