Be honest, with recent changes, would you return a TiVo still within return period?

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  1. sangs

    sangs Active Member

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    Title is pretty self-explanatory, but I'll expand upon it anyway. With the recent TOS changes, among other things, if you were within the return window for a full refund, would you return your TiVo(s)?
     
  2. HerronScott

    HerronScott Well-Known Member

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    No but I'm a long time TiVo user with cable/CableCARD and my options are limited (and don't offer all the features).

    Scott
     
  3. TonyD79

    TonyD79 Well-Known Member

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    No. Because the changes pretty much are just reflecting what is already reality. People panic. The entire transaction is “is this worth it for the time I expect to use the device?” Not “will I be able to sell it six years from now” or “replace it free?” That is not in the minds of most buyers when they buy a TiVo or any other consumer electronics.
     
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  4. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

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    No, since I'm Catholic and we don't believe in divorce.
     
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  5. sfhub

    sfhub Well-Known Member

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    You probably have a little more to worry with an older model TiVo where there aren't a decent percentage of monthly users.

    I would guess you'll get enough usage to justify the purchase for a newer model, but I wouldn't go overboard. Just get what you need.
     
  6. just4tivo

    just4tivo Active Member

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    There's always the option of a little STB on the side
     
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  7. stile99

    stile99 Well-Known Member

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    If you share a OnePass with someone else, you're sharing it with everyone they've ever shared a OnePass with.
     
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  8. sangs

    sangs Active Member

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    I don't even care that it's getting derailed with this type of humor. Awesome. :D
     
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  9. just4tivo

    just4tivo Active Member

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    That was STB not STD
     
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  10. just4tivo

    just4tivo Active Member

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    You gotta laugh to keep from cryin'
     
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  11. jrtroo

    jrtroo Chill- its just TV

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    Nope. I'm not paranoid. Doom and gloom has been predicted here well before my official start date here.
     
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  12. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

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    The use of a poll would have produced quantitative results. But still humor.
     
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  13. Barnstormer

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    My last Tivo purchase was a 'refurbished' Roamio OTA with Lifetime guide service (not quite lifetime anymore, though) - $200.

    Return it if I could? No.

    But, I am glad I only paid $200 for the entire package. I would be hard pressed to buy a new 4K Bolt 1 Tb storage with All-in service for about $850 knowing that they could pull guide support anytime by just saying they don't support the unit any more. Add in a Mini Vox for another $179? Nope.

    IMHO, a better approach would be to have offered multi-year guide service at various costs to newly purchased units. Combine that with a promise to support the unit for at least nn years (say 5 minimum) and and that is a more reasonable approach. Yes, they would have to grandfather people like me in, or offer a really GREAT deal on a new Bolt, but it would have preserved trust.

    Like I said, the idea of paying $800+ for a new Bolt when I get my 4K High Dynamic Range TV in the next year or two just doesn't make sense now.
     
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  14. SullyND

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    There is really no other option, so no.
     
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  15. sangs

    sangs Active Member

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    Well that's not remotely true. There are literally dozens of other options, depending on where one lives and what one's needs are.
     
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    sangs Active Member

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    Thought about it. However, every poll thread around here generally turns into a bitchfest about missing options in said poll.
     
  17. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    Well, if it's still within the return window then we're talking more annulment than divorce.
     
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  18. sangs

    sangs Active Member

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    No offense, but I don't think the "be honest" part is being adhered to. Try to clear your mind of being with TiVo since the good old days. OK, now, say two weeks ago you purchased two Bolt VOX 3 TB's at $499 a pop, two Mini Vox's at $179 a pop, dropped two lifetime subs at $600 a pop - or two yearly subs at $150. Now, this week, you are hit with the news that TiVo is getting out of the hardware biz and has changed its TOS. So you have the option of recouping all that money, or staying put and hoping your investment doesn't turn into a failing cryptocurrency they promised you would flourish. It would make me nervous. It's not like that is just a drop in the bucket.

    And this is not me btw. My stuff is well past returnable. I'm just trying to put myself (ourselves) in somebody else's shoes. I personally don't think the news of the week is going to help TiVo get more subscribers/purchasers. (Oh, and Doom and Gloom is starting be as overused as Buttery Smooth.)
     
  19. SullyND

    SullyND L: 30-3 TCF Club

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    Who else offers skipmode? TTG?
     
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  20. TonyD79

    TonyD79 Well-Known Member

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    Sure the be honest part is being adhered to. When I bought my TiVo’s I was looking at the cost versus value for using them for a few years. I don’t see where the changes have affected that. It is the same purchase decision I make for just about anything. Is the price worth what I’m getting out of it. If it isn’t for the time I’m going to use it, no resale or trade in is going on change that. Very few people resell their electronics despite the conversation to that point around here.
     

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