Battlestar Galactica - S2E13- 1/20/06 "Epiphanies"

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  1. Anubys

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    it had pilots and crew (albeit skeleton)...it should have had a couple of doctors...
     
  2. 5thcrewman

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    IIRC Bones always beamed or (mostly) shuttled back to the big 'E' right before it left spacedock. I'm just sayin'...
     
  3. JerryLBell

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    You couldn't be more right! Friday night is an all-SciFi affair with the wife and I and we HATE blowing up 4:3 letterbox to 16:9! It's even worse in that the local cable affiliate runs SciFi strictly as an analog tier offering, and it's among the 10 worst-looking channels in the analog tier (unfortunately, National Geographic is even worse). I'm not willing to pay extra for the HD collection of channels Time Warner offers us (HD-Net, HD-Net Movies, IN-HD, IN-HD2 and ESPN-HD) as the only regular shows they seem to run are up-converted "Hogan's Heroes" and "Charlies Angels". Now, if they had a SciFi-HD chanel or if Universal offered BSG, Stargate: SG1 and Stargate: Atlantis in HD, I would certainly consider paying a few bucks extra! Especially if they also ran classic SciFi movies in HD (2001, Blade Runner, Star Wars, Star Trek, Matrix, etc., etc.).
     
  4. dcheesi

    dcheesi ...I'm not.

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    I find that it actually looks better if you don't blow it up, assuming you can tolerate the bars on all sides. It's kind of like a photograph; the more you blow up a low-res original, the uglier it gets...
     
  5. Jonathan_S

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    Galactica might still have had some med staff, but it could have been reduced to just medics since it was the final days before decommission and switch from warship to museum.

    Pegasus should have still had a full medical staff however (possibly minus a few open slots due to replacement being low priority during a long refit). However, its possible that much of the crew could have been on shore leave when the Cylons attacked. So who knows how much of the medical department was onboard when they made the emergency blind jump.
     
  6. IndyJones1023

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    And not only were both ships in a position to have reduced medical staff when they left Caprica, but consider all the casualties since then. They might have lost medics, as well.
     
  7. Anubys

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    You're wrong. Here are the FACTS:

    1. Galactica has 1 doctor and 13 medics. All have survived. One was injured but recovered.
    2. Pegasus has 4 doctors, 1 surgeon. and 28 medics. None have even been injured.

    those are FACTS, buster. I will now accept your apology.








    did he fall for it? please? oh please fall for it...
     
  8. LlamaLarry

    LlamaLarry Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    I'm still kinda hung up on how Pegasus and her crew were still able to fight the Cylons. Even if "we" know the Colonials were all disabled in the initial fights as a result of a backdoor, do Pegasus and Galactica know?

    All along I was still under the impression that it was "new tech", specifically networks, that was the problem and that Galatica and her birds were generally secure because they were "old school". As soon as Pegasus and Cain started going on about all their successful raids I've been waiting for *anyone* to ask, "How the frak did you do that? Everyone else is dead in the water as soon as the Knight Rider lamps come on."
     
  9. IndyJones1023

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    I need to see these facts backed up by paper evidence. With the corners cut off.
     
  10. JustAllie

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    :D :up: Good one, Indy!
     
  11. Anubys

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    the terms of your probation preclude you from making such comments. This is your final warning.
     
  12. hefe

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    I don't know...cutting corners always leads to problems down the road...let's try to be thorough...
     
  13. dcheesi

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    Yes. Baltar "discovered" the backdoor in his navigation code (early in season 1), and they removed it from all the computers in the fleet. And Pegasus was still in the process of 'upgrading' to the new software when the attack hit, so few (if any) of their systems were affected.
     
  14. JustAllie

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    Hey, I was put on probation in an Atlantis thread, not a BSG thread. Nobody said it was a whole Sci-Fi Friday thing! :p
     
  15. speedcouch

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    Not in the case where she was about to be raped, which resulted in an accidental death. There was no need for that type of action to simply interogate a prisoner. But to threaten to draw down on his Commander over the abortion issue, yes, I definitely think he was wrong. Adama made it clear he was acting on the President's instructions. Had Helo actually pulled the gun on Adama, I think he should've been disciplined in some way; maybe not throwing him in the brig forever, but something (court-marshalled, reduced in rank, etc.) Certainly not the death sentence, but not just the stern look he got from Adama. That really taught him a lesson, didn't it?

    No, I agree she is sentient; however, she is a prisoner of the state, and if Roslyn believes her child being born represents a threat to the humans, I feel she was well within her right to order the abortion. Helo was trying to prevent them carrying out Presidential orders, so that's a big deal. Not enough to kill him over, but still insubordination of sorts. It's not the chain of command's problem that he has a personal relationship with the prisoner.

    BTW, my job involves dealing with progressive discipline for conduct issues among employees, so obviously I have strong feelings about this stuff, especially where insubordination to a supervisor is involved.

    Cheryl
     
  16. hefe

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    Just a note for tonight's episode. (I thought it was too early to start that thread.)

    The podcast is already out, and I listened to the first few minutes.

    I found it interesting...Moore's opinion of the show... (opinion of the episode, NO plot spoilers, so it's safe to read. Just being cautious)
    He does not like the episode. He doesn't think it works, doesn't meet the standards of the show, and he makes sure to point out that it is his own fault.
     
  17. emandbri

    emandbri TV junkie!

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    I'm sure I'll still love it!
     
  18. ccooperev

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    As a matter of military discipline, Helo was certainly skirting with trouble. But here's the rub. I'll explain my thinking in the next section below...

    I preface these remarks by saying I am not nor have I ever been a soldier. The closest I've been is being a military brat. -- The son of a decorated military officer. Having grown up in a military family and being familiar with military culture, I feel I can speak a bit towards the subject of chain of command, military discipline etc.

    The culture of the colonials bears a striking resemblance to American or Canadian culture. In that culture which I think creates unique advantages is that there is an expectation that you are to think for yourself and that there are no permanent classes. In the United States A billionaire can become a pauper overnight (E. Howard Hunt et. al) and a pauper can become wealthy and powerful based on both their abilities and fortune (luck). Much of this culture was borne of the American Revolution which threw off the European status quo of immutable classes (Nobles/Commoners) etc.

    The American ability to succeed in war, commerce, sports, and cultural domination is I believe because of the creativity borne of intellectual and cultural freedom.

    So, what is interesting about the confrontation between Helo and Adama is that Adama has chosen to lead in a very different fashion than that of the late Admiral Caine. Adama chose not to react in the same way Caine might have (execute Helo on the spot) because he sees his command as a family. As such, the loyalty engendered to him is out of respect and love and NOT fear. Which is why Helo stood down and Adama didn't punish him.

    Helo I believe was acting on his moral imperative to protect his "family". In the American context, this is a right upheld by several Treaties that the US is a signatory to and legally and morally bound to follow. In the American context, a soldier is legally allowed to disobey a direct command from a superior authority if it is in direct contravention of that soldier's oath to protect, preserve and defend the Constitution of the United States which would include its treaty obligations. So, in the inflammatory rhetoric of those that would give legal rights to fetuses, Helo was merely protecting his family from the overreaching of the State. To do this requires the soldier to have some ability to think. This of course is in direct contradiction to traditional military order and discipline where soldiers are drilled not to think. But, again, what does make our military work is the ability for field commanders to be creative in accomplishing their missions.

    Of course, BSG is all make believe so your mileage may vary... :cool:

    I'm also interested in your comments about your job responsibilities. Can you shed some light on the kinds of problems you face? Is this a Union protocol you're dealing with or what?
     

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