Battlestar Galactica - S2E13- 1/20/06 "Epiphanies"

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Warren, Jan 20, 2006.

  1. Cue-Ball

    Cue-Ball New Member

    Oct 8, 2002
    Kirkland, WA


    Well, it's quite obvious that the fleet hasn't been shown what all of the known Cylons look like. Even Baltar said "what's this" when he saw the folder of cylon model pictures. Like you said, the press has seen the picture of Doral, but that's it.

    I agree that it doesn't make sense that this info hasn't been passed around, but it hasn't. So at least that part of the writing is consistent.
  2. Cue-Ball

    Cue-Ball New Member

    Oct 8, 2002
    Kirkland, WA
    Don't confuse cylon blood with the cylon/human fetus blood. Both the doctor and Gaius have said that cursory examination of a cylon shows no differences between them and humans. It takes a much more in-depth look to tell who is who. As far as this episode is concerned they're discussing the blood of the fetus which may or may not be different from cylon blood. So, either they've just figured out something new and different about cylons when compared to humans, or the cylon/human fetus has different blood than a regular cylon. I'm betting on the latter. I think I'd liken it to different blood types. Something that you can't just see by looking through a microscope.

    They made a very big deal about multiple people seeing Gaius talk to himself in the hallways this episode. I have a feeling that since Laura is now getting better and will be around a while, the whole issue of the crazy VP is going to come to a head soon. Not only does he talk to himself, but now Laura knows that he is in cahoots with Six. He's gonna have some 'splainin' to do real soon now.

    And put me in for one more vote of "that sucked" that they miraculously cured Laura's cancer.
  3. PJO1966

    PJO1966 Hi. What is this?

    Mar 5, 2002
    Los Angeles, CA
    OT but an interesting tidbit... I'm rewatching Season 2 on UHD. In the episode called "Resistance", Tighe is interrogating the Chief about his knowledge of Sharon as a Cylon. Tighe suspects the Chief is a Cylon and Chief starts spouting off his military history. One of the ships he served on was Pegasus.
  4. mportuesi

    mportuesi As seen on TV

    Nov 10, 2002
    I'm skeptical about President Laura being affected by the Cylon blood.

    If it were going to take over her brain, or affect her in some negative way, then why was Gina so upset that Baltar missed his chance at the presidency?

    Obviously, they want a Cylon sympathizer or someone they can control in that post, and the Cylons seem very disappointed they didn't get it.

    That would imply they can't control Laura Roslyn or directly kill her with the Cylon blood.
  5. Big_Daddy

    Big_Daddy Purveyor of Idiocy

    Nov 19, 2002


    Another OT but interesting tidbit. Regarding Roslyn's remembrance of Baltar and Six on Caprica....remember their conversation in "Six Degrees of Separation", when Baltar was imprisoned. She said something like, "My gut tells me that somehow you were involved."

    Now she knows how. This should be interesting.
  6. Anubys

    Anubys All About Footwork

    Jul 16, 2004
    I don't think she will be affected...but she will certainly be accused of that...

    do you think that terrorist guy who almost got to be her VP will miss a chance like this?
  7. Zen98031

    Zen98031 New Member

    Sep 29, 2005
    I think that "terrorist guy", (Tom Skerrick?), has learned that his support is not as strong as he thought, and that Roslyne is a better leader than he originally gave her credit for. I don't see him trying anything any longer.

    This show was one of the weaker ones but I'm confident they will come back strong.

  8. PJO1966

    PJO1966 Hi. What is this?

    Mar 5, 2002
    Los Angeles, CA

    I think the only reason he backed off was because she was dying. There would have been no point in challenging her any further. It just would have appeared that he was kicking her while she was down. Now that she appears to be making a full recovery, all bets are off.
  9. Zen98031

    Zen98031 New Member

    Sep 29, 2005
    I kinda hope not, only because I really did not like that story line. Seemed even less plausible then a group of people wanting a "Sing Along" with the Cylons. You would think that people would be happy to be alive and appreciative of what Galactica is doing for them.

    Will just have to watch and see where they go...

  10. Sirius Black

    Sirius Black Grey Warden Reject

    Dec 26, 2001
    A City by...
    You would think that but if you listen to the commentary, Moore goes into the thinking behind the sympathizers.
  11. dswallow

    dswallow Save the ModeratŠ¾r TCF Club

    Dec 3, 2000
    They need to place elements neceessary to understand and believe the actions of characters within the show itself; if listening to commentary is the only way something makes sense, then something's wrong.
  12. Zen98031

    Zen98031 New Member

    Sep 29, 2005
    Yeah, I will have to start listening to the commentaries, but the writing should be such that a viewer does not need the commentaries to know what is going on. I can see a time where there may be a danger of relying on the commentaries to explain things too much.

    ETA: Thats what I get for posting at work and having it take a while, somebody else posts the same thought I had... :)

  13. jradford

    jradford The Jerkstore called

    Dec 28, 2004
    Did anyone else notice, and think it odd, that Six was able to pick up the letter from Roslynn and walk across the room with hit? I may have missed something, but I thought that the Six in Baltar's head was nothing more than his imagination. For example, when Six grabbed him by the tie, it panned out to show him basically strangling himself with his own tie.
  14. chavez

    chavez New Member

    Nov 18, 2004
    this episode seemed hacked together. when they came up with the miracle cure I groaned. if they were desperate to keep Roslyn around, devise a neural trawl, map her mind, and digitize it into a simulation (see the novels of Alistair Reynolds).
  15. IndyJones1023

    IndyJones1023 Auteur

    Apr 1, 2002
    Orlando, FL
    But he wound up with it in his hand. So basically, we was imagining she took it. As long as he wound up with it, his brain painted in the rest.
  16. SparkleMotion

    SparkleMotion New Member

    Feb 2, 2004
    Alive at...
    Essentially what I was thinking as well.
  17. dcheesi

    dcheesi ...I'm not.

    Apr 6, 2001
    MD, USA
    If you think about it, part of the reason that the resistance movement seems "out of the blue" to us is because we see the military perspective on this show, and the military guys clearly didn't see it coming either. There could be plenty of rumblings going around on the civilian ships that the Galactica crew never even hear about, much less pay attention to.

    Now Roslyn, OTOH, should have been more in touch with "the people"; but she's been ill, and anyway she never had the kind of political machine in place that perhaps she should...
  18. hefe

    hefe Rebus Philbin

    Dec 5, 2000
    CO via Chi-town
    It's not the only way. You can come to conclusions that make sense by filling in the blanks yourself, and storytellers often allow that to happen, allow for personal interpretations. But hearing the POV of the author(s) can be interesting.

    Also, sometimes you get an insight that would become apparent in another episode or two anyway. It's not so much that there's specific spoilers, but some things just come out as he describes how they came to include a storyline, or some of the background of the writing or production process.

    But if I weren't listening to the commentary, I'd still be enjoying the show.
  19. ihatecable

    ihatecable Crazy Collies

    Apr 16, 2003
    Long Island,NY
    Reminds me of the time Starbuck caught him pleasuring himself in his lab,lmao
  20. Jonathan_S

    Jonathan_S Well-Known Member

    Oct 23, 2001
    Just like earlier in the episode Six was choking him by pulling on his tie. But then we got the POV of the guards and it was actually Baltar choking himself.

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