Battlestar Galactica - Lay Down Your Burdens - 3/3/2006

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  1. Mar 5, 2006 #61 of 154

    Amnesia The Question

    Jan 30, 2005
    Boston, MA


    Did Adama and the prez even discuss the possibility that supposedly losing her robochild may make Sharon less trustworthy?
  2. Mar 5, 2006 #62 of 154

    Warren Wild Hair

    Oct 18, 2001

    No sorry me enlish r not good. (joke)

    I have a hard time explaning things.
  3. Mar 6, 2006 #63 of 154

    jwjody Not enough room

    Dec 7, 2002
    Center of...
    I think Sharon enables the jump drives she doesn't make the coordinates. I think that because when the one ship got lost the navigator said to the pilot that she gave him the coordinates.

  4. Mar 6, 2006 #64 of 154

    Crrink Active Member

    Sep 2, 2002
    Austin, TX
    Hm, sounds like a jerk.
    Thanks for the info.
  5. Mar 6, 2006 #65 of 154

    vikingguy New Member

    Aug 11, 2005


    Or they send a message from one of the battle stars or other ships in the fleet. They are only 9 cylon FTL jumps from caprica so the cylons would most likely find them on thier own even if a spylon did not rat them out The writers did not plan out anything and it is showing this half season.

    Yep lets waste a good portion of the raptors and more importantly piliots to save 20-30 people who may already be dead. Lets trust sharon who they have under constant guard and is really pissed they killed her baby not to screw them over once they reach caprica. If the mission is a failure hmm what do they loose a bunch of valuable raptors 20 piliots including 2 of thier best ones and an invaluable information source in sharon. Yep risking all that is totally worth the small chance of rescueing 20-30 people.

    In the offseason I hope the people running the show draw up the story line from here till the end so they have an idea were it is going and how to get there. This is why babylon 5 is the much superior show MJS mapped out the history of his universe a 1000 years in each direction before he started the show. Every thing came together beautifully because of that fact. Season 2.5 has been a complete failure IMO with strange out of the blue character turns and massive plot holes you could drive a base star through. I just hope they don't do something drastic just to shock the fans like making adama or baltar a cyclon.
  6. Mar 6, 2006 #66 of 154

    Hersheytx New Member

    Feb 14, 2003
    Didn't Sharon have to hook up to the computer when Galactica had the Cylon virus? I thought she helped them at that time to shut down the computers on the Galactica and reboot the system.
    They made a point in showing how Helo kept referring to a talk they had when they started the mission. Like they had hashed out all the pros and cons of helping rescue the Caprica people. I think it was the writers way of saying it happened but we figure you can accept it without the 10 minutes of dialogue.
    Also it seemed Sharon was connecting with the Cylon organic computer. Almost like it knew by instinct how to make longer more precise jumps back to Caprica. Sharon was just making it boot up and starting its program. Kind of using Sharon as an interface between the humans and cylon technology. Hope that makes sense. This makes more sense when you understand that the cylons can make longer more precise jumps then the humans.
  7. Mar 6, 2006 #67 of 154

    flyers088 tcf junior member

    Apr 18, 2005

    I have listened to every podcast done by him and he has never said that he does not look at the message boards at all. In fact I have heard the exact opposite from him, he will look when he gets a chance. He tries to update his blog when time permits but with his schedule sometimes it is hard. I do not see him coming off as whining. I feel his feeling are that his is trying to give something back to the fans and if they have to put up with some extra noise so be it. I am occasionally irritated by the backgroud sound that go on during the podcasts but there really is nothing going to be accomplished by people whining on the message boards about it. He did the podcasts from his old home and that was outside a high traffic area with many things going on that are everyday real life noises. He has since moved and the last podcast was free of all the noises people have been complaining about.

    I thought the little skit he and his wife did was funny and did bring up how asinine it was for people to complain about noise he has no control over. I guess people would like him to do the podcast in the middle of the night so no one on the internet would be bothered by sounds and the only person inconvenienced by it all was him. I for one am just grateful we get to hear some of the thoughts that went into making one of the best series on TV and if in order for me to hear that everyweek I have to put up with a screaming kid or a lawnmower so be it, I think I will live. There are not many producers/writers out there doing something like this everyweek with their show so I hope people just shut up and don't ruin a great thing.
  8. Mar 6, 2006 #68 of 154

    MickeS Well-Known Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    No kidding! One funny thing to me was how much he looked like a Swedish cartoon character named "Socker-Conny" (Sugar Conny) in that one shot:

  9. Mar 6, 2006 #69 of 154

    Big_Daddy Purveyor of Idiocy

    Nov 19, 2002
    I'd be less concerned about internal programming and more a conscious choice to betray the humans. Her motivation to be with them and protect them - her baby - is now gone. That leaves her feelings towards Helo as the only factor keeping her there. And the loss of a child is not easy...

    It may be tempting for her to run home in her grief.
  10. Mar 6, 2006 #70 of 154

    TAsunder Debates Ghee vs Gi

    Aug 6, 2003
    Madison, WI
    Well, this was a really flawed episode that was nonetheless very good. I found the music during the opening sequences really distracting and silly. Cheeseball stuff you'd see on other science fiction shows.

    The political debate was silly. As is the animosity between baltar and the president. Why didn't he pull the trump card, you know, the whole "she was injected with cylon blood" thing. The debate over colonizing the planet made little sense. Not only because of cylons but because even if they are going to colonize it, they should take baby steps and plan things out instead of jumping to conclusions like Baltar.

    The six in baltar's head seemed a little off this episode.

    Agreed that we have now discovered a new cylon model with the conversation between lee and the slutty chick.

    Dean Stockwell was really great in this episode. I barely recognized him.

    The stuff on caprica is starting to get interesting. I'm thinking now about what would happen if galactica sharon comes back to Galactica. Two sharons, a love quadrangle, would she be assassinated again? All interesting questions.

    There was an indeterminate time between last week and this week again. At least several months I'd say, since it would be odd for someone to announce their candidacy for president and then shortly after that be in a debate.
  11. Mar 6, 2006 #71 of 154

    cheesesteak Meh. TCF Club

    Jul 24, 2003
    15 mins...
    How long have we known that the Chief has ben having reoccurring nightmares? Did the writers just throw that in there this week?

    I think the president's new assistant is kinda hot.

    I just don't see how Helo could/would ever be accepted back among the rank and file members of the crew. He's made no secret that his love for a Cylon is more important than his Galactica duties. I can't believe he hasn't been accidentally killed on purpose by now.

    Adama and Roslyn being lovey-dovey seems wrong.
  12. Mar 6, 2006 #72 of 154

    jradford The Jerkstore called

    Dec 28, 2004
    If he says he reads his boards, my bad, I missed that. I didn't listen to any of the podcasts from the past seasons, but have listened to all the ones from season 2.5. In the last one, I thought he said something more in line with my comment, but I definitely could be wrong.

    As for your quoted text above: I TOTALLY agree!! I think we are extremely lucky to get an insiders view every week. If you look back on my post you'll see that I was not complaining about the background noise. I'm complaining about HIM spending 5 minutes of every podcasts reacting to the people that complain about the background noise. And then doing a skit to address the issue.

    As a casual listener, it sometimes feels like I'm in the middle of a grade school spat between Ron Moore and the people who whine on his message boards. IMO, it makes him look like an ass.
  13. Mar 6, 2006 #73 of 154

    Jonathan_S Well-Known Member

    Oct 23, 2001
    I think Sharon must have been providing coordinates. First because the dialog prior to the initial jump implied that she was, and second they only had the one heavy raptor FTL drive. Conceivably that could have been retrofitted into one Raptor, but not all 20 or so that they were taking.

    It seems to me that they were saying that the limiting factor on the distance a Raptor can jump is not the FTL drive itself, but the computing ability to calculate the necessary information to control the drive. So with a Cylon computer doing the jump calculations a Raptor could jump farther without any changes to the FTL hardware.

    Presumably the same would be true for why Base Ships can jump further than Battlestars; better computers to give control the FTL drives.

    Hmm, maybe that is why Galactica always has to calculate the FTL "coordinates" for the fleet. Maybe they are not simple coordinates, but rather control data for the FTL drives, which is needed because the fleet is making longer jumps than the onboard computers of most of the civilian ships are designed to calculate...
  14. Mar 6, 2006 #74 of 154

    getbak Well-Known Member

    Oct 8, 2004
    Calgary, AB

    “Travelling through hyperspace isn't like dusting crops, boy. Without precise calculations we'd fly right through a star, or bounce too close to a supernova, and that would end your trip real quick, wouldn't it?”
  15. Mar 6, 2006 #75 of 154

    danieljanderson Proud to preach TiVo

    Nov 18, 2002
    Because it was his idea. Wasn't it?
  16. Mar 6, 2006 #76 of 154

    TAsunder Debates Ghee vs Gi

    Aug 6, 2003
    Madison, WI
    Yeah. And? He was willing to save her life with it but is uncomfortable at the thought of her continuing to be president because there is no telling what the side effects are. As a scientist he is interested in the effects, but as a leader he thinks it is too much of a security risk. etc.
  17. Mar 6, 2006 #77 of 154

    TreborPugly Unreal!

    May 2, 2002
    Eastern TN
    Yeah, I think they threw in the nightmares. But they did have him wondering if he was a Cylon when Sharon shot Adama, and started counting up all the ways he'd helped her so far.
  18. Mar 6, 2006 #78 of 154

    MickeS Well-Known Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    He hasn't spent even close to 5 minutes combined in all the podcasts to talk about the complaints.

    I loved the skit, made me laugh out loud. :D

    - Honey, are you done with the podcast yet? The maid, the gardener, the dogs and the kids are all waiting, and I need to unmuzzle and untie the children.

    - No, the children can remain restrained until further notice, and send the garderner and the maid upon their way... and release the hounds and chase them off the property as soon as possible.

    - Well, let us know when you're done with your podcast, I know it's the most important thing of all.

    - Yes it is, we don't want to disappoint the fans.


    That took all of 25 seconds, by the way, out of a 43:11 long podcast.
  19. Mar 6, 2006 #79 of 154

    questfortruth New Member

    Feb 17, 2005
    Moore takes time out of his busy schedule to do these podcasts for FREE- and solely for the benefit of the fans- and people are complaining?

    Makes you wonder if humanity deserves to survive, after all... :rolleyes:
  20. Mar 6, 2006 #80 of 154

    vman41 Omega Consumer

    Jun 18, 2002
    If I were in the smuggling business, I'd have the nav. computer continuously calculating a safe 'bug out' jump in the background just for emergencies.

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