Battlestar Galactica 1/13/06 S2E12 Resurrection Ship Part 2

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  1. hefe

    hefe Rebus Philbin

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    Nobody ever said "completely meaningless." They serve the story, but they aren't usually the focus of the story. And in this case, the intelligence they got led to a fairly easy victory in this battle. There wasn't much drama in the battle anyway.
    I've never seen B5, so the discussion of it doesn't mean much to me...
    The point he is making about that is that the specific detail isn't important. They could write in the exact circumstances, but the point is that she got away somehow. They don't feel the method is a big deal, and doesn't significantly enhance the story they're focusing on.
    We got some insight into a major character...Apollo, when he decided he didn't really want to come back. It will be interesting to see if his newly realized feelings affect his thoughts and actions going forward.
     
  2. NoThru22

    NoThru22 Smelly Pirate Hooker

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    lord-dogbert, please spoiler tag discussions from the previews for next week. That is forum policy.
     
  3. lord-dogbert

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    Sorry :eek:
     
  4. lord-dogbert

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    Lee needs to grow up and realize that the Admiral was a threat to the fleet. She would take out the entire fleet if it meant saving her bacon. Picard would be very very upset with her.
     
  5. 5thcrewman

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    Now that she's gone can we spell the character's name correctly please? No 'e' -just Cain.
     
  6. hefe

    hefe Rebus Philbin

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    Thanks for the clarification, 5thcrewmane.
     
  7. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    ...although I don't think Lee knows very much about what she'd been up to...
     
  8. Fool Me Twice

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    That's a copout--and a common one among cult producers I think--appealing to little highbrow critic in all of us. Who's going to be philistine enough to complain that there wasn't enough bang-bang! after he's appealed to our artistic discernment? But, he more or less admits that they screwed up, as you quoted:
    They knew that their replacement for a battle sequence didn't work and tried to fix it by going all artsy and symbolic, but the fix wasn't any more satisfying.
    I know I'm supposed to applaud his auteuristic daring, but I'm not going to. I like to have these annoying plot points filled in. I always suspect this sort of flippancy is incompetence masquerading as audacity.

    Still, the writers, et al, did produce an episode that was satisfying in most every other way, so this series is in no danger of having its SP deleted.

    On Lee's resignation to death, I think it's remarkable that more characters haven't slipped into the same sort of melancholia. Their world was destroyed and they're being pursued across the universe by tireless, remorseless, soulless (maybe not?) killers. What happens when word gets out that Earth is a myth? If they discover that they've not only lost their past, but their future? This is an interesting subject that I'm sure they will explore.
     
  9. vertigo235

    vertigo235 Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Only the new Mark VII Vipers had trouble, like the one Apollo had.
     
  10. Anubys

    Anubys All About Footwork

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    you're not the only one to complain about this...so here are the details:

    Baltar gave her a key. This key opens any door. He found it in the bathroom. Gina used the key to open some doors, carefully hiding from others. She pretended to read a newspaper that had two holes in it (for her eyes); very cleverly escaping attention. She quickly made it into Cain's room because she knows the layout. Gina is now hiding (probably in the ducts, but we don't know for sure yet).

    ok? :)

    should have put this in a spoiler tag? ;) :p
     
  11. ovr8ted

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    ^ :D Nicely done.

    As to the whole comparison between BSG and B5, enough already. I never saw B5, but I have been told it was very very good, however now I am almost hesitant to watch it because a few are so pit bullish here. Get over it, move on, there is next Friday to begin nitpicking again!!!

    So Dualla gave up on Billy? What did I miss?

    I got the impression we have seen the last of Rosylan.

    Starbuck, will be enlightened to the error of Cain's ways by the (previously) XO. An apology will be made to Adama, he will pick her up with one hand and slam her on the ground, , oh wait, that's already been done to Boomer :p (man that was a great scene!)

    I'm ready for next Friday, anyone else?
     
  12. hefe

    hefe Rebus Philbin

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    I fail to see how that's an admission of a screw up. Some ideas work better on paper, some have a different feel when you look at it. What program, TV or movie, doesn't undergo editing and rethinking?

    This whole Resurrection Ship episode actually started out to be a single episode. As it turns out, they had much more material than they could fit in one episode, and didn't want to trim as much as it would have taken to get it down to one, so they made it a two-parter.

    Part of the equation also is what they have time and budget for.

    As for the battle sequences, I happen to like how it was presented.

    YMMV, of course. ;)
     
  13. jwreiner

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    I just get frustrated with the show because I go from really liking every minute and not wanting to wait a week (or several months) for the next episode to being very disappointed.

    I definitely get Moore's point that technical mumbo-jumbo ("transfer power to the shields" or "inverse reverse tachon neutrion bursts") is pretty pointless. The mini-series kept most of the battles in the background and I thought that was perfect.

    The series started out as a desperate race for survival from a powerful enemy. The conflict between Roslin and Adama was facinating, and seeing the conflict in Baltar between not really wanting to be a bad guy but definitely looking out almost entirely for himself was very interesting. I really liked the episodes with Richard Hatch too, with all the resulting "character development".

    But given the way things stood at the beginning of the last episode, everything seemed to unfold in the lamest way imaginable. The powerful cylon force no longer seems that menacing, and whatever effort went into exploring the characters passed me by. All of the plot lines wound up, and then gently wound right back down. The raptors dancing around one another for a few minutes without firing is a good example. I'll admit that whatever is going on with Apollo is new, but at the moment I don't find that I care that much. I did think the kiss from Adama was unexpected and interesting.

    I just get the feeling that the writers really don't know where they are going with the series.
     
  14. vikingguy

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    That is what I am talking about they cheapened the show with such an easy battle. Why were they afraid the cylons when they could kick thier asses so easy like RS2. The battle should of been hard and difficult instead it was a cake walk. Is there any reason that adama should not turn around and kick the cyclons out of the 12 colonies? They whipped 2 basestars with almost no efford.
     
  15. Redux

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    It is important to know that the original material is at least somewhat respected.

    The Cylons' advantages have always (in this context) been overwhelming numbers and deceit. Fighter-to-fighter, carrier-to-carrier, tactical-to-tactical, the humans have always been superior.

    In this battle we had two human Battlestars, one of them fully-staffed and equipped. That's quite formidable against a Cylon task force remotely deployed well-away from the main armada. But formidable enough to frontally assault the occupied colonies? Maybe not so much.

    And going back to the context of the original material (and btw the series name is "Battlestar Gallactica", not Battlestars: Gallactica and whatever others come along), the Pegasus is not a permanent part of the series. Whether it is destroyed or wanders off with uncertainty about it's fate, or just takes another direction, one way or the other it's gone.
     
  16. Rob Helmerichs

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    Also, note that in past instances when Galactica when toe-to-toe with a Basestar, they barely escaped intact. The difference is this time, they had the initiative; they knew where the Cylons were going to be (for once), and they were able to take them by surprise and divide their forces. If they go back to the Colonies, they won't be two-on-two; they'll be two on gods know how many.
     
  17. sschwart

    sschwart It sucks to be me

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    Ok. That episode just totally rocked!

    Just...wow. I loved Baltar reciting Six's lines back at well... Six.

    The tension between the two ships, the assasination orders... Just perfectly played out the whole way.
     
  18. hefe

    hefe Rebus Philbin

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    So did the producer, the director, and Mary McDonnell...
     
  19. vikingguy

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jwreiner
    I did think the kiss from Adama was unexpected and interesting.


    Not to anyone with 2 eyes.
     
  20. jwreiner

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    I didn't get to the end of the podcast. Did EJO improvise the kiss?
     

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