Battlestar Galactic "Lay Down Your Burdens" 3/10/06

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  1. chavez

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    ok, my recording cut off just as President Baltar was meeting the Cylons in his office. Six said she knew who he was, then it cut off.

    Did I miss anything after that??
     
  2. questfortruth

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    No, Galatica 1980 is what happened to BSG when the network completely gutted the budget, and Larson responded by firing the big "stars" (Hatch and Benedict), selling off the special effects team to Buck Rogers, and transferring most of the "action" to Earth.

    As Moore said in the podcast for this episode, he's trying to push the boundaries in terms of what is possible in a television series. Much respect to him for that, regardless of the outcome :up:
     
  3. Lannister80

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    Save it for Queen Doppelpopolus, Doppelganger!
     
  4. Skittles

    Skittles West Coast citizen!

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    On this, we can both agree.

    I just have a hard time believing that a civilization capable of faster-than-light travel and curing cancer and recycling water is capable of that kind of fashion faux pas. :)
     
  5. BlueDuke

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    I don't think it can be a dream. We saw Sharon and Boomer's baby as well as the adoptive mother. Only a few people knew about that, and Gaius wasn't one of them.
     
  6. ToddAtl

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    I will keep my fingers crossed that the writers can somehow pull this off. From where I sit, next season seems like it will be a very different show. Whether you want to use the word reset or not, its certainly a fundamental change in the underlying premise of the show.

    I agree with what some others have said that there are things that have happened in the last year that have changed the dynamics of some characters' relationships with one another. Gaeta and Baltar, Lee and Starbuck, Adama and has facial hair lol. What I would hate to see is the show almost go "Lost" on us for a while where each episode splits time with current doings and tries to tell us in flashbacks what happened in the year thats been skipped over.

    Last, it seemed to me that the population count for New Caprica City should have been higher. It was somewhere in the 30's when the last fleet count was around 50,000. I doubt almost 20k people decided to stay in space, especially if the Battlestars are so under-crewed. I suppose there could be other settlements on New Caprica to account for that population gap or it could be that life over the last year has been really tough and a large number of people have died.
     
  7. Rob Helmerichs

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    Several ships were destroyed when Baltar's nuke went off.
     
  8. philw1776

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    Add me to those who are hopeful with this turn of events. I listened to the podcast and lots of effort was made to change the appearance of both Adamas. They commented that they hoped that Galactica Boomer Release 2.0 really 'looked like a cylon' in the final scene.

    Several great scenes in this episode...
    * Adama confronting the Pres about the fraud and her 180 agreeing to disclosure
    * Baltar attempting to go toe to toe with Adama and backing off
    * The recycled spylons confronting Pres Baltar and his surrender
     
  9. chewbaccad

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    I could be wrong, but I thought the pop# for New Caprica was 39k+. The pop# for the fleet has always been 49k+. So that leaves ~10k who were either killed in the blast from Cloud Nine or are still manning the sizeable fleet in orbit. Sounds about right to me, though I'm still kinda uneasy about the how the personnel of the group was split.

    Edit: thinking about it now though, wonder what happened to the all of the prisoners aboard the Astral Queen. Did they just get released back into general population on the planet? That's kind of a high percentage of your planetary pop to be violent criminals. I'll stay on the ship, thank you ;)
     
  10. GadgetFreak

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    How much time passed between Starbuck asking for the medicine and the visitor to her tent?

    Wondering if Lee sent a batch of medicine to her, delivered by a pilot. That would set up Starbuck having access to a fighter craft for next season.
     
  11. mikeinla

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    You can see where this is going...but it's still going to be good.

    First, they didn't destroy the human colony...and only the "good cylons" were there.

    Second, they didn't repudiate the "we made a mistake" stuff...no mention of that

    Third, if they destroyed all those human colonists, there wouldn't be enough left for a show...:)

    Where's it going?

    Cylon civil war.

    The producers are DS9 folks....remember the Klingon civil war...and the federation attempts to stay out of it?

    There's your plot line. Plenty of good stuff about the internal running of the Cylon empire (which would be interesting)...with a potential story line of how the Cylons got to be Cylons (really, really interesting)

    Plus, rogue Cylons can allow most of the humans to escape...and wander "out there among the stars"....

    Season 3 leading into Season 4..
     
  12. vertigo235

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    I think next season we're going to see another batch of cylongs either swoop in and start fughting the cylons we see now. Enabling many of them to escape or what not.

    Or, the majority of the cylons there now will have to jump out to fight somewhere else.
     
  13. DLiquid

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    Just because that's the only idea you can think of doesn't mean that's what the show will become. The premiere episode could have a rival Cylon faction show up and lead to the humans making an escape amidst the bedlam. Or in a completely different scenario, Baltar could ally with the Cylons and pursue Galactica and the rest of the fleet. There are literally hundreds of directions they could go with the show.
     
  14. mostman

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    Priest Al showing up on Caprica and nobody questioning where he came from is terrible. 100 percent terrible.

    Not only did they not _question_ him - they all appeared to be brainwashed when he started talking. Nobody bothers to ask - 'Who the Frak is this guy!? Do you know him - no? - you - no?'

    There is no excuse for not explaining this. It makes me really wonder if the writers even care.

    -Mike
     
  15. Lord_Skywalker

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    Remember, Starbuck was on the 'phone' with Lee when the Basestars jumped in. I don't think Lee would send a Viper down just to leave them behind.
     
  16. hefe

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    They mention in the podcast that they weren't pleased with the way that scene played.
    They didn't question it beacuse he was supposed to be with them. He wasn't a sudden appearance. Moore admitted that it was a script problem.
     
  17. DLiquid

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    He didn't magically appear in the forest, the writers picked that moment to introduce him to the viewers. He was part of the resistance group. How or when he became part of the group was not explained, but I don't need them to explain everything.

    EDIT: Or what Hefe said.
     
  18. pjenkins

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    I personally loved this episode and can't wait for October to see where they take it. It shocked me when they went forward a year, but I completely bought how it could happen that way given how the election turned and the people were demanding settlement. With the Cylons saying they made a mistake and then not having anything happen even longer than they had been on the run prior (which Adama points out in the show, IIRC), the people's desire to return to a 'normal' life not in space is very easy to buy.

    Also, I'll disagree with everyone else on another point, I dig EJO with the mustache, I hope he keeps it :)
     
  19. mostman

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    Yep - just heard it on the podcast myself. He was indeed intended to be part of the resistance group. I'm not sure how they would have done it - otherwise, we would have known last week when he talked to the Chief, that he was a Cylon. They are right, it is the look of surprise on their faces that makes the scene not work. Also - they put him high up above them and it makes it look like he just appeared.

    Knowing this changes things. It means that they had an insider in the resistance group all along. Couldn't he have mitigated some of the terrorist style attacks that the group was pulling off?
     
  20. mostman

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    OK - finished the podcast. What upsets me is that I _really_ feel that these guys are flying by wire here. It sounds like they plan a couple episodes ahead, but that is it. I honestly don't think this kind of show can work unless you have the complete timeline laid out. I hope I am wrong - I really do.
     

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