Battlebots Season 5 - 2020 - 2021

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  1. Steveknj

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    Actually I think it's 4 fights they have to survive. Round of 8, Round of 4 Round of 2 and the bounty fight. There's still plenty of fluff, especially before the bounty fight. If I recall this week, they had the semifinal fight, a set of commercials, then setup up for the fight, a set of commercials, then they brought them into the ring, announce them, they hit the buttons they were ready, then set of commercials, then the fight. Also all through the tourny they had little vignettes about the bounty bot. Still, plenty of action.
     
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  2. eddyj

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    Yeah, they get to the final fight with 20-25 minutes left, so they have 20+ minutes of fluff and commercials at the end. Thank goodness for FF!
     
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  3. Worf

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    From what I can tell, it's not any quicker - it's 8/4/2 so 7 fights, and the final championship round was 7 fights as well over 2 hours. Each episode is 1 hour long (rather than 2) so it's just split over 2 episodes with more fluff (there are only 7 games from start to finish, versus 8 over a standard 2 hour episode plus the 2 round of 32s and round of 16).

    But yeah, more robot fighting.

    Though I'm still of the opinion it started as an untelevised round that was interesting enough - not interesting enough to put on the main fight, but interesting enough to air as a separate series. After all, the first round of 8 are really just 4 random bot fights that could've happened during the main season. And then later in the season, they thought they could make it into a another series to have more content - all the footage was already taken so it would just mean a few more matches. Add in a little creative editing and you have a post-season that was filmed during the main season.
     
  4. Tobashadow

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    The Witch Doctor bounty hunter episode was excellent from start to finish.
     
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  5. mattack

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    Just watch the non-tournament stuff at 1.9x then the actual matches in real time. Works great.
     
  6. mattack

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    BTW, there is AT LEAST one more new episode a week from Thursday. I usually check the listings for next week for some of these shows (some days seem to have a lot of conflicts even with fewer new shows on now).. and at first thought it was over since THIS thursday is not Battlebots.. but next week does have a new one..

    (and you can't count on the episode info in tivos anymore..)
     
  7. kdmorse

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    Tivo says no episode on 4/22, last Bounty fight on 4/29
    Battlebots website says last Bounty fight on 4/22
    Discovery Channel listing says no episode on 4/22, last Bounty fight on 4/29
    BattleBots Twitter still thinks the last fight is on 4/22

    My money is on the next and last new episode airing next week.
     
  8. mattack

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    Since Tivo plus discovery channel (I presume you mean on the web?) both agree, I'm more likely to believe them at the moment.

    but obv will confirm again on Thurs I guess..
     
  9. kdmorse

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    Correct. And the Battlebots twitter account finaly caught up:

    BREAKING NEWS: The final episode of BattleBots: Bounty Hunters will not air this Thursday. It will instead air next Thursday 4/29 @ 8:00pm ET on Discovery (Discovery is pre-empting the show this week for an Earth Day special - happy Earth Day everyone).
     
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    I love Rusty and all, but that fight was stolen from Kraken. Period.

    Otherwise, a nice finale. I am VERY impressed with how much better Gygabyte has been this season.
     
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  11. cheesesteak

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    I agree. I thought Kraken beat Rusty by a lot.

    I know that the engineers who design and build these bots are very intelligent but why some of them design bots without a self righting mechanism is beyond me.

    For me, the worst possible match from an entertainment perspective would be Rusty vs Mammoth. Two bots that look like junk.
     
  12. eddyj

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    The problem is that the judging is heavily skewed towards "damage caused by the main weapon". Which means that control bots are screwed from the get-go. So accidental damage to essentially a cosmetic part in Kraken counted more than anything Kraken did.
     
  13. Jonathan_S

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    Though to play Devil's Advocate I can't remember Son of Whyachi (or its heavier predecessor Wyachi) ever previously getting inverted. Its very low profile and the low mounted spinner hammers generally keep it upright even when it takes a major hit. It was only an unlucky bounce that caused it to land on its head this time.
    And it'd be pretty tricky to build a self-righting mechanism into a bot like SoW. I guess it could go with an bent bar like Gigabyte did (though we saw how long that lasted :D) but that complicates the hub arrangement (potentially making it weaker and/or heavier; which means less weight to devote to offense). Anything else I can think of would need to extend between the bars supporting the hammers, and that's tricky even if it only does so after the weapon's spun down.

    Arguably, if SoW only gets inverted once every 4 or 5 seasons then a self-righting mechanism may not be worth the tradeoffs to install.
     
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  14. eddyj

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    Yeah, SOW is a little different from other spinners in that it's center of gravity is so low, and it is almost impossible to get under it, that having a self-righter seems like a bad choice. But it is definitely the exception. So many other bots need to have it (or be able to run inverted).
     
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  15. cheesesteak

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    Is there another simultaneous Battlebots-like tour that the bot owners can compete in instead of Battlebots? I haven't seen SoW and at least one other of the bounty hunted bots in a couple of seasons. Are they competing elsewhere or just sitting in a storage container?
     
  16. Worf

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    SoW is on Bounty Hunters. There's a note that they were supposed to be in the main event but I guess something happened.

    Could also be because of COVID, the organizers invited more teams than usual, knowing that some will probably not be able to attend, but enough teams that they could have something to record (these would be organized when the first lockdowns would be happening and no one knew how many would even be even able to show up).

    I wouldn't be surprised if Bounty Hunters was created as a special because of COVID - I'm guessing teams like SoW couldn't get together in time for the main event but showed up shortly afterwards. Could be because of lockdowns, or other issues (including ability to get the team together in time).

    So they created Bounty Hunters as an offshoot. Probably started as a way to use some of the main event footage that was never televised (recycling), at least for the first round, then just do the last matches.
     
  17. Jonathan_S

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    I stumbled across the Battlebots wiki yesterday while trying to see if SoW had ever previously gotten flipped over - and it says that they weren't planning to run the bot anymore because of the effort needed to keep it operational, but when a planned competitor Double Jeopardy dropped out they brought back SoW, but only to fill that slot in the Bounty Hunters event. (I guess the concerns about maintainability don't matter so much if you're guaranteed to only need to go for one fight)

    But I suspect BattleBots was reaching out to lots of teams that weren't planning to play the full season to try to line folks to be the Bounty - so they could fill their broadcast schedule given the much shortened season. We saw several Bounties that weren't in the regular 5th season.
     
  18. Tobashadow

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    Spoilers alert

    Random thoughts from the Bounty Hunter series

    SoW and Bronco were basically retired designs at that point.

    You can tell Bronco was basically spare parts and was not in it's best form. It never fired off no where near the bot jumping off the floor level of power.

    Knowing the way he thinks Tombstone was probably one of the "used" frames from older seasons or one of his many clone bots. Using a used frame bit him in the butt a couple seasons ago with frame cracking.

    Perfect Phenoix using the small blade was a huge mistake, but may have been all they had left after the main season. That bot is a retired design anyways.

    Witch Doctor, the moment I seen it had the fixed weapon wheels that the Chomp team helped them make after all the issues, I knew whoever made it to them was screwed. That bot used to be a joke bot for ratings etc, but the last three seasons or so it's gotten very serious and when the weapon works it's a killing machine. I did notice they got their SRD working like a champ this year which was a weak point.
     
  19. mattack

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    Seemed to me like they made it to be an "original" series for Discovery+, and then for some reason decided to put it on the main channel.. (maybe "give them a free taste" of an entire short run series?)
    I thought some previous articles had said Discovery+ had a higher subscription rate than people expected though.

    Though I'm glad that presumably they were completely unedited, since they were in slightly-more-than-2-hour time slots.
     
  20. Steveknj

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    And they've said this on numerous occasions during the season. It's not always about control. They want carnage, because it's more fun and exciting. Thinking of it in boxing terms, while the jabber may land more punches, the puncher might land less but ones with more damage. Who wins in that case? Clearly in Battlebots its the latter. In that context, Rusty wins. I think it could have gone either way, but based on this criteria, to me, it was clear Rusty won.
     

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