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Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Budule, Nov 8, 2015.

  1. Bigg

    Bigg Cord Cutter

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    Suddenlink's prices must be insane if DirecTV is cheaper... That being said, DirecTV is clearly the better TV service, it's just so expensive, and no TiVo. It's even worse if your cable company jacks up the internet rate when you don't have TV with them...
     
  2. stevel

    stevel Dumb Blond TCF Club

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    No matter what a DirecTV CSR tells you, you can't require any particular box (and can't specify "no contractors" either.) You'll get what they have on the truck. If you want a particular box you have to order it from a reseller such as Weaknees or SolidSignal. It will still be a lease.
     
  3. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

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    That's an interesting concept so you buy a hopped up 6TB HR54 from Weaknees for $950 and after a few years decide to cancel Direct TV - do they expect you to give them your HR54?
     
  4. mdavej

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    Yep. 6th sentence below:

    https://www.weaknees.com/cart/HR54-DIRECTV-Genie-Home-Media-Center-HD-DVR-6TB-HR44.html

    And last sentence here:

    https://www.weaknees.com/dtv_faq.php#q61

    You can buy owned equipment a few places, like from DirecTV employees now and then, but even then, you still have to pay "lease" fees. No way to avoid those fees. That's one of the major reasons I have Tivo. I've owned DirecTV DVRs in the past, and they have always been a nightmare convincing DirecTV they're owned and keeping the owned status on their books. If I sneezed, they'd change my DVR back to leased. Not worth the trouble or expense.

    I can't fathom any benefit to owning DirecTV equipment other than avoiding the ETF and getting exactly the model you want. Seems like a very poor use of money to me.
     
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  5. bonscott87

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    Tivo Bolt is $300, $150/yr of service, first year of service is included so the cost of the hardware is really only $150. I paid Charter around $20 a month for their really crappy DVR, DirecTV is more expensive then that. I'll make up the $150 hardware cost in just over a year. The balking at the Tivo service cost never made much sense to me.
     
  6. mr.unnatural

    mr.unnatural Well-Known Member

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    I haven't read the entire thread so I skipped past the Tivo bashing and miscellaneous arguments. Being a former DirecTV subscriber, all I can say is, good luck with your decision. I don't have any major beefs with DirecTV as they do offer a good product, until there's bad weather. With the blizzard we had this past weekend I would have been in a TV blackout for at least 36 hours. Comcast used to be just as bad, but I haven't had them as a TV provider in almost two decades. One of the major reasons I dropped DirecTV and switched to FIOS was that it allowed me to keep using Tivos. The DirecTV HD DVR that had just come out was problematic and I just didn't like the idea of being locked into a 2-year agreement with hardware that was inferior. Their DVRs have been vastly improved, but I don't regret making the switch to FIOS one bit.
     
  7. jonw747

    jonw747 Active Member

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    In my case, I got miffed with how pricey DirecTv had become, so called them up, talked to retention, and got crap offers so I started my transition to Verizon+TiVo. Once I got to the point of cancelling with them, then they finally wanted to talk about making me a competitive deal.

    Way too late...
     
  8. TonyD79

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    If you would have been without tv for 36 hours for the snowstorm, your dish was poorly placed as it would get buried in a drift. I never lost signal in a snow storm in my 20 years with directv.
     
  9. Imageek2

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    I am just boxing up our HR34 to send back. We put our service on hold for six months while we tried TiVo OTA + streaming. When I called to cancel I told them I was leaving because I was tired of paying a $10 HD fee, and because I was tired of paying for ESPN. Interestingly they told me they had a package that didn't include ESPN, no mention of dropping the HD fee :)
     
  10. BobCamp1

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    I can imagine some installers putting the dish on the roof with a 3' pole thinking, "it never snows that much here" while not accounting for drifts.

    Ice storms are different. You will lose signal for a while. Which is why you need a super soaker with hot water.
     
  11. sangs

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    Better yet, a dish heater. Golden.
     
  12. Chuck_IV

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    The problem is that the CSRs sometime talk out their you know what to try and keep you.

    When I cancelled, this lady threw everything at me and gave me a price that was lower than what we would have been paying with Charter's triple play. I was extremely skeptical and asked her to detail the pricing in an email, so I would have it documented if they tried to screw me.

    I received an email about an hour later and it was some generic email about something else we discussed. When I called back the next day, the retention lady couldn't come close to the prices the first lady said because some of what the first lady was quoting was only 3 month pricing.

    So the first lady was blowing smoke(just like the CSR who said they wouldn't put the person above under contract... on the equipment, you can decline the install until they bring the equipment you want, so there is a way.

    At the end of the day, for me, Directv couldn't really come close to the Charter cable pricing.
     
  13. mr.unnatural

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    My dish was attached to my chimney with clear line of sight and no obstructions and was optimized for best reception and signal strength. It was never buried in a snow drift due to its location. I even had an oversized dish with a Grundig LNB with higher gain than the stock LNB. This is going back about over a 10-year span ending about 8 or 9 years ago before the new dishes were being used to receive the newer HD satellites.

    If you've never lost a signal then you've never had a storm as severe as the ones we've had. I've lost the signal on numerous occasions and the blizzard conditions we had over the weekend were far worse than ones we've had in the past. I play pool in a league several nights a week and the bar where I play has DirecTV. They lose the satellite signal quite often during heavy rains. The thing is, you don't have to be right in the storm for it to affect your signal. It can be anywhere between your location and the horizon in the direction of the satellites. Signal loss with DirecTV and Dish is a fact of life, whether its affected you personally or not. If it hasn't then consider yourself among an elite minority.

    My local Costco has DirecTV reps that greet you as you walk past their display. They're always trying to sell me on DirecTV until I mention rain fade. They have nothing more to say about it other than wishing me a nice day. They have never denied that it exists, nor can they do so without lying.
     
  14. mdavej

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    Weather never affected my DirecTV much where I live, mostly brief outages during heavy rain. No big deal. What did make me leave DirecTV was the spiraling costs. When I left, a DVR was essentially $25, plus $7 for each additional box, then a $90 mid-tier programming package on top of that.

    With cable, my equivalent programming package is far less, and my fees are only $2 for my single cable card, a savings of about $70/month total over satellite. I also had Dish for a while. They averaged about $10 less than DirecTV for the same stuff, but still way more than I'm willing to pay for TV.
     
  15. Bigg

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    Maybe a high-end custom install?

    Yup. The guy who used to sit next to me at work used to have DirecTV, and he watching the news off his dish during one of the big hurricanes, looking out at a river/ Long Island Sound with 100mph winds coming in and hitting the house his apartment was in.

    Maybe you'll get regular blip-outs for a few minutes during heavy rain in Florida or Texas, but in places like New England, they are rock solid. More reliable than most cable providers, and if you have tanks of propane and a standby generator, you can be completely without utilities, and still watch TV during a hurricane or blizzard. Add in a phone with LTE, and you've got intarwebz.
     
  16. SomeRandomIdiot

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    The HR34s were dogs from day 1.

    People assumed they would eventually be fixed, like it took the HR20's about 2 years of firmware to get fixed - but that has never happened with the HR34 (and the HR44 has its own issues as well).
     
  17. SomeRandomIdiot

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    Interesting as the actually dish is blown off the J Mount between 70 and 80 MPH.

    Just ask anyone who was in South Florida during Hurricane Wilma, the last Hurricane to hit Florida.

    Took 6+ weeks to get enough Dishes into South Florida for replacements.

    Of course, as those in Florida found out, the generators at the Cell Sites only have enough diesel on hand for 12 hours at most after they lose power.
     
  18. TonyD79

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    Nope. Except when I had a tree droop because of rain (that tree eventually caused me to turn off DirecTV), I have never had more than a few minutes drop out because of a rain storm heading my way. Once it got here, signal came back. Never, never, never had snow knock out my dish and I went through Snowmaggedon and the Snowpocalypse in the same week.

    I can put up with a few minutes down time versus the days I have had with Fios since I got it when storms mess up ONTs or modems. However, that tree has grown and I cannot trim it (I don't own it), so I am off DirecTV. I would go back in a heartbeat if they ever take the tree down.
     
  19. SomeRandomIdiot

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    So you never had DirecTV during the Ka HD transmissions. Signal issues alot worse now.

    However, quite frankly, I am shocked you had that much trouble on the Ku Band back then.

    I do not recall anything close to what you are describing - compared to the Ka losses today.

    Hopefully that will be solved very soon - and given an article I I saw about Jet Blue's tech upgrades yesterday, I am sure it most certainly will.
     
  20. mr.unnatural

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    Storms should have zero affect on either your ONT or modem. The signal is transmitted via fiber optic right up to your ONT and should be completely unaffected by the weather. The only time I've ever lost signal with FIOS is during a very brief power outage. LOL, good luck getting any trees cut down in Columbia. The Columbia Association would have your nuts in a vice and haul you off to the nearest courtroom for defiling their sacred community. If it weren't for changes in the law, they'd never have allowed you to put up a dish in the first place.

    I suspected as much considering how much more difficult it is to get a dish aligned with the new satellites. I actually have a newer dish out in my shed and I had purchased a satellite meter to align it, but then FIOS came along and I jumped on it right away and dropped DirecTV. There are just too many limiting factors with DirecTV that I no longer have to deal with, like the ability to record programs using my own DVR or HTPC instead of their equipment. I'd have to pay a premium price for internet if I had DirecTV because cable providers give you a discount for bundling their services. It's the one thing DirecTV can't offer. I don't miss DirecTV one bit.

    It didn't happen all that often and the conditions had to be quite extreme. If it was a widespread storm between the dish and the horizon to the southwest then the signal strength would be severely compromised. It was just damn annoying when it did happen.

    I see signal losses occurring much more frequently when I'm playing pool at a local sports bar and there's any heavy weather in the area. They lose the satellite signal all the time. Every time it happens I remind myself just how lucky I am to be on FIOS.
     
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