Babylon 5, "Mind War", S01E06, OAD 3/2/94 *spoilers*

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  1. Fleegle

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    Is that one before or after TKO? :p
     
  2. gchance

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    Towards the end of B5's run, when DS9 was in full swing, and the Trek fans & B5 fans were at each other's throats online, I always saw it as they were sort of feeding off each other. DS9 saw what was being done over at B5 in terms of story arcs, epic story, etc., and adopted it. In the meantime, DS9 had a better budget and better effects, which made the B5 guys work harder. I didn't see this as a bad thing, both shows were fabulous during this period.

    I still say, however, that
    DS9 ripped off B5's finale.

    Many would disagree, I'm sure.

    Dammit, Beavis, you brought up the title name that should never be uttered! SHAME on you! ;)

    But see, that's the thing. In S1, there are some good episodes, some bad episodes, but nobody seems to agree. One person may feel an episode is awful, while another person may see it as a really good one. I think that Believers is one of those episodes, but so is TKO. I don't like TKO that much, but can see elements that are important to the overall story, while some people love the Zima... I mean the episode.

    I thought this discussion was about Mind War! Nah, I love these discussions. They'll get so much better as time goes on, too.

    And I'm with the person who said as we progress it'll be harder and harder not to watch ahead. Just think of what it was like on the original airings, when the network HELD BACK the last episodes of the seasons! So you'd have 3 or 4 episodes left of the season but they'd show them at the beginning of the NEXT season. Then having extended breaks similar to what we're seeing now, only with B5 being the ONLY show that had that problem. And the local affiliates rescheduling at bizarre hours because they didn't care about the show.

    DVD makes it so much easier.

    Greg
     
  3. Fleegle

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    I remember that, and it was mostly pre-TiVo, so you had to pay attention to when your local station aired the show...
     
  4. busyba

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    Since it's arguable that
    DS9 also ripped off B5's initial premise.

    I suppose there's a kind of symmetry there. :D
     
  5. gchance

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    In my own case, I also had to deal with Sacramento Kings games. Only some games were carried by that station (it was flipflopping with another station), and not being a sports fan, I didn't exactly have the schedule on hand. So at the end of the episode during one scene, they'd have a scroll saying something like, "Next week's Babylon 5 episode will be pre-empted by the Sacramento Kings, but will be aired at 2am on 5/8." Miss the scroll? Miss the show. They never put this change into the TV Guide.

    Timeframe, man, timeframe.

    Greg
     
  6. mrmike

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    I think you meant to say
    "But, at least there is symmetry." :D
     
  7. Fleegle

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    Yea, we got a lot of Suns games pre-empting Babylon 5. Luckily, they had a set late-night alternate showing that I could catch.
     
  8. Gerryex

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    Hi ALL,

    You have dragged me into this thread - thanks!!!

    I watched all the episodes when they were originally aired and loved the overall series. In fact it was one of my favorite Sci Fi TV series. Over the years I also watched them when they appeared as re-runs. While I don't have the DVDs (I'm too cheap!) and while I probably won't watch every episode I do find that I'm following these threads and will watch some episodes on www.hulu.com.

    I just watched this episode and it really brought back memories of what I liked about this show.

    Gerry
     
  9. Craigbob

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    I agree here, but IMO TKO is not that bad esp. if you see it where it was intended as ep. 20. Rather than 14 as the original airdate was.

    I also like Believers. I think that was an episode that hammered home the fact that this ain't a Trek wannabe.

    I also liked Koenig's take on Bester. You'll notice he always only uses one hand. That was a character trait WK came up with.
     
  10. atrac

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    I was an extra in this episode. LOL!!!

    /end shameless self promotion
     
  11. gchance

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    Care to tell us where you're at?

    Greg
     
  12. Mr_Bester

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    I vote they have to wait 6-8 months to see it like I did while watching reruns of season 1 :p
     
  13. Mars Rocket

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    I'd like to do 3/week, say MWF and then people can catch up on the weekend. The discussions aren't so lively that I feel like I'd fall behind if I had to wait until the weekend to catch up on episodes watched.
     
  14. gchance

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    Oh man that'd be funny.

    "Well guys, we're almost at the end of Season 2, but I'm not going to post the threads for the last episode yet because we can't watch it yet. No, we can't watch this last episode until October. Also, the next one I request everyone watches at 2am, because I'll be watching basketball at the normal time.

    In the meantime, we'll be rewatching each of these episodes every week over and over."

    I don't have a problem with it, but weren't you the person who wanted Tuesday/Friday? Anyway everyone give your preference. If everyone agrees we'll start the new schedule on Monday.

    Greg
     
  15. Fleegle

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    I'm fine with 3 a week. M/W/F is a good timeframe, too
     
  16. BeanMeScot

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    I'm already several ahead so whatever ya'll want to do is fine.
     
  17. atrac

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    Well, since you've asked. ;)

    It's been awhile since I've seen this so my description will be very vague (!), but there is a scene in the last 1/3 where Ironheart throws up an "energy barrier" blocking access to him. I believe they show Sinclair and Garibaldi talking about it, then they move away and Talia walks up. I am standing there and I give a "who the hell is she" quick glance at her. You probably see me for about 5 seconds (that's life as an extra!).

    *EDIT* LOL, I just looked and it is on AOL Video. I revise my screen time to 3 seconds(!). Dang I remember having to wear that hat now too! It's right after Garabaldi says "you ask me right now, we need to know."

    After I saw it air, I was surprised how well you could see me (considering extras are just background). I gave that same look at her when she walks up for every take, so I assumed they either liked it or didn't care. Or they didn't notice until later and were like "damn, look at that extra overacting. Too late, we have to use this."

    It was great being on the set and I distinctly remember that the cast and crew were very nice! It was definitely one of my better experiences working as an extra. :)
     
  18. busyba

    busyba The Funcooker

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    Did you watch the Ricky Gervais series "Extras"? Was that an accurate reflection of your experiences?
     
  19. atrac

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    Very much so! I only did it for about six months, but that was pretty much how it was.

    ...minus the getting your own tv show part of course. ;)
     
  20. DLiquid

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    I probably shouldn't have watched this when I was so tired. I had a hard time paying attention and staying awake :eek:. It was just okay to me. The special effects were good here compared to past episodes.

    I like Garabaldi more and more, even if he does seem like a budget Bruce Willis.

    At first Ironheart looked like the dude from Cameo in a Members Only jacket :D. Ironheart's evolution/transformation at the end was reminiscent of the same kind of thing in the TNG episode Transfigurations. Sorry for the TNG comparisons, but I started re-watching that a year ago and I'm about half-way done so it's very much in my head. Also, this kind of observation was probably common when this first aired, so it's appropriate. :)

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