I got my Premiere a couple of months ago when Tivo and AntennasDirect had their promotion for "cord cutters"... A Tivo Premier and an excellent Clearstream antenna for just $99 plus monthly service of $9.99 - OTA only. They said they were going to run the promotion through 11-11-11. Yesterday I went to the Tivo site, and it's gone! In it's place is a brand new OTA promotion. For *only* $169 you can get Premiere, and a (lesser) antenna. Service is back to $19.95 monthly. They had a perfect opportunity to virtually OWN the cord cutters and they blew it. The key was the monthly service price of $9.99. $9.99 a month is in the acceptable range of HuluPlus, NetFlix and Amazon. My total expenses are still below $30 a month. If I had to pay $20, it loses it's value. That bumps my cost up to the range of Dish, DirecTV, etc. I might as well go back to pay tv... Geez, guys, didn't anyone ever tell you that 3 nickels are better than 1 dime???? ----------- Yes, I posted 'way back in January about the problems I had with that Tivo... in trying it this time, it was much, much better! Having a better antenna worked wonders, and software updates since Jan made a lot of difference. Back then, my Netflix worked very well (now, well, not so much...) It's a trade-off - I just don't watch Netflix on Tivo, but I do use it for all my OTA watching and recording, and I use Streambaby for my movies and vids on my computer. I'm also experimenting with the Logitech Revue, and so far it does well with Tivo.