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Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by EMoMoney, Sep 16, 2006.
Agreed. I think something's wrong with 3.1x as well.
I no longer have 6.3 as that unit died, and I won't let the replacement update to 6.3 until this issue is fixed. When I did have 6.3 running, the PCM output workaround did not help. This makes sense, since what I was seeing is a record problem, not a playback problem. When audio is missing for 8 seconds on the recording, it does not matter what you do to the outputs (PCM, DD, analog), there is simple no sound to be heard.
I suspect that the people who are able to use the PCM workaround are experienceing playback issues, not the same issue those of us with "all audio missing 8 seconds and then returns with a video burp" issue are seeing.
Possibly true, but there are two different places to set audio type. I was asking about the output audio type for a live program, but have you tried changing the recorded audio type to see if there are audio dropouts on a recorded program when you have it record in PCM and playback in PCM?
Not to get too much into semantics, but even live programs are recorded, you are just watching a buffered recording. I never got a chance to try PCM recording prior to my 6.3 unit dying. It is hard for me to say if giving up DD all together is better than the periodic audio dropouts with DD. Probably not.
FWIW, my HR10 has acted a bit wierd over the past couple of weeks, but it is still on 3.1..
On Mail Call, SUnday night, had a 30sec audio drop out.
Also, unit rebooted Friday night around 11:15. Has never done that before.
Have 2 HR10s.
1 hearty care free unit forever, started dropping 8-15 second audio on FOX, days after it upgraded on its own about 2 weeks ago. Drop outs got us very angry during FOX's OTA (WashDC) Prison Break recording tonight. I would estimate between 6-12 drop outs. Not a problem on other channels. So far.
1 unupgraded unit will be unplugged tonight.
Interesting...I had about the same amount on Prison Break tonight as well in the Bay Area...really irritating...can anyone with 3.1.5f confirm if they saw dropouts on Prison Break tonight?
Edit: Now I'm watching Vanished and I've had 6 dropouts in the first 15 minutes...this is just inexcusable...D* may be losing another customer soon...once I'm caught up on my shows I'm going to go back to 3.1.5f...over a year wait for this update and I'm going to end up right back where I was...
Now I just read Sotapoppy's post below...what the heck are we supposed to make of this? Why is it FOX most often and it happens on some 3.1 boxes? But some 6.3 and 3.1 boxes are fine? Could there have been any hardware changes to the HR10s over time?
No audio dropouts for me on 3.15f recording OTA on Portland's FOX affiliate.
I had numerous dropouts on local fox OTA during Prison Break tonight in the Minneapolis area. I'm on 3.1. Before this, dropouts have not really been an issue for me.
Had 2-3 dropouts during Prison Break last night on Buffalo Fox OTA with DD turned on. 6.3a installed last week. This was the first time I've had the problem.
Are all timeslots affected on the Fox OTA broadcasts? I am going to watch tonite and see if my non-upgraded HR10-250 is afflicted with this.
I had my first audio dropout while watching recorded Prison Break last night. The video kept going just fine, the audio stopped for 5 seconds or so. This was about 50 minutes into the program. I have 6.3a. Rewinding and playing the content again causes the same audio dropout.
I was lucky because I was recording the same content on my Media Center PC. Both the HR10-250 and the Media Center PC are fed from the same OTA antenna. There is a single splitter. One feed goes to the HR10-250 and the other goes to the Media Center.
It was interesting that the Media Center recording of Prison Break did not have the audio drop.
The Media Center isn't doing Dolby Digital, however, while the HR10-250 is.
After getting 6.3 and 6.3a, and all the OTA FOX audio dropouts in the process, I switched my season passes for Prison Break and Vanished to the FOX East feed (channel 88, I think) out of NYC. No audio dropouts since. I'm just glad I have a choice.
I've got 3.1 and had experienced several dropouts, some lasting minutes, during a recent episode of Cold Case. This was recorded from the SAT channel. When the dropout occurred, I lost the voices, but background noises and music continued. When it returned, the receiver picked up a DD 2.0 signal later switching to a DD 5.1 signal. I have never had any problems like this since I owned the HR10 6 months ago. I use a Toslink cable to my Sony STR-DA50ES receiver.
The fact that you had some of the audio makes me think that is probably a local station issue. You might want to call engineering to see if they know what happened.
I have an HR10-250, 3.1.x, unhacked, stock unit and I am getting many audio drop outs using DD setting for OTA HD recordings. I have not tried to switch to PCM yet. I don't think this is 6.3 related.
I also have a 250. My problems started Friday night and are only on recorded progaming. I record my programs on the hd west coast channels. Two shows I recorded Friday(81,83) had only back ground audio no voices. The commercials were fine which makes me think the programs are in dd and the commercials are not. It's only recording one of the surround channels info in dd. Went to watch Cold Case today and it worked for about 15 min. (an improvement) and then dropped the audio again. I called D* and they are clueless. I still show 3.1 software. My phone line hasn't been hooked up for a while and they though thats why I didn't get the upgrade. So I hooked it up and the said I should have it in 24 hours. Here's my set up.
HD250 into a Clabs hd splitter to my theater room, MB, and family room. The home theater has a tos link and the other two rooms get analog. I had the unit set to record in DD.
I have changed audio to record in analog and will wait for the update.
My unhacked 250 was upgraded Friday night. Since then I have been having frequent drop outs along the lines of what has been described. It seems to be all OTA HD programing. I called D* today and, as usual, the person I am talking to is barely listening while going through their D* for dummies play book. Is it plugged in? etc. They will not even acknowledge that anyone else is having the problem. I initially set up to Record in DD. I sometimes turn on my DD receiver but often just use the TV sound system. I got the dropouts both through the TV and trough the receiver when I set the 250 to output DD. I turned the record option not record in DD. This seems like an unnecessary workaround.
I had a problems with audio in Sunday's Cold Case recording as well (on 3.15f still) at what would have been around 9:22 Pacific time. The strange thing is I also had problems with Desparate Housewives recorded at the same time.
While the two of them were recording I was watching an HD program I had recorded earlier.
I wonder if some of this is that more of us are pushing the limits with multiple OTA HD recordings at the same time (and maybe coming out with higher bit rates this year).
That particular problem with getting background audio but no voices is not a TiVo issue. It's an issue with the station. I've seen that issue a few times in the past and it's a problem going between 5.1 and 2.0 audio at the station's end.