Audio dropouts (6.3) only on OTA channels?

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by LoopinFool, Sep 29, 2006.

  1. EMoMoney

    EMoMoney Big and Tall

    Oct 30, 2001


    Shortly after the update, I had noticed the dropouts on both OTA and SAT. I had experienced them on my FOX and CBS OTA and noticed them on ESPN and the NY CBS (80). I record a lot from CBS, and haven't noticed the droputs since the first week, but I am getting a lot of dropouts on the FOX OTA.
  2. kcmurphy88

    kcmurphy88 New Member

    Jul 5, 2003
    Los Angeles
    I have not had audio dropout at all with 6.3a. I did have occasional audio dropout with 3.1.5f, particularly with HBO-HD. Maybe it just hasn't happened yet. Mostly been watching TiVo'd OTA HD.

    HD10-250 component video and optical audio, 5.1 out to Denon AV3803.
  3. RBMD

    RBMD New Member

    May 1, 2005
    I had the center channel dropout issue on Cold Case recorded with DD using ota source from Portland, Or. this week. The center channel would drop, a few minutes later the channel would drop to SD from HD and the center channel would reappear. Then it would switch back to HD and go through the same sequence again. It did this 5 or 6 times during the show. I'm still on 3.1f so I know my issue was not a 6.3 thing, rather a local broadcast issue. So far I've had no issues with 6.3a already installed on a 2nd HR10-250.
  4. mbobak

    mbobak New Member

    May 23, 2004
    Belleville, MI
    I've only had 6.3a for less than a week now. No problems till last night, Vanished was littered so littered w/ dropouts, I turned on CC!

    So, that was the only time I noticed it, FOX-OTA.

  5. eengert

    eengert New Member

    Feb 11, 2005
    Buffalo, NY


    I don't have 6.3a yet so I can't test this, and it's just a shot in the dark...but FOX is 720p and everyone is complaining about FOX. This theory doesn't make perfect sense and there have been a few reports of other channels (1080i channels) having dropouts as well, but I wonder if most people do what I do and leave the HR10 set to output 1080i even for FOX's 720p native resolution. And I wonder if somehow that might be contributing by making the HR10 upconvert the signal and use more CPU or something like that. Like I said, it's a longshot, but would someone mind testing that but switching the HR10 to 720p output while viewing a FOX program that is giving you dropout problems and report back here? I'm not sure how to explain the fact that the dropouts are repeatable by rewinding and replaying, but we might as well explore any angles that come to mind, eh? I don't really want 6.3+ if it's going to cause a lot of audio dropouts for me, but if I knew that for some reason it was isolated to FOX for most people, I'd be willing to let my HR10 upgrade since I only watch FOX for NFL and don't mind if some of those announcers are muted. :D
  6. String

    String Member

    Aug 2, 2005
    I am on 3.1 and am getting 2 seconds dropouts on ESPNHD. The OTA dropouts maybe hardwhere where the sat dropouts are D*.
  7. newsposter

    newsposter Poster of News

    Aug 18, 2002
    SE PA
    for you that use DD do you always have your receivers turned on or does your TV process dolby?
  8. Indiana627

    Indiana627 Member

    Jan 24, 2003
    Vestal, NY
    I had audio dropouts during Prison Break OTA HD last night on my 6.3a and I had it set to 720p not 1080i. I always change the HR10 to match the stations native res and let my TV do the converting.

    Hey - a fellow Buffalonian! Did you have any dropouts during Prison Break last night? Looks like the Sabres will be in HD tomorrow night on channel 95.
  9. eengert

    eengert New Member

    Feb 11, 2005
    Buffalo, NY
    I don't watch any FOX programs except baseball and football.

    Yeah, they seem to put the OLN-HD feed on 95.
  10. devans6151

    devans6151 New Member

    Oct 22, 2006
    I am getting dropouts on fox 4-1 in Dallas
  11. AJ500

    AJ500 Member

    Feb 22, 2002
    I just got the classic dropout with 6.3a (OTA 8-10 sec audio drop, no video loss, slight video pixelization as they re-synched). This time it was not Fox. NBC OTA Lap 289 Nascar
  12. Cody21

    Cody21 New Member

    Jan 11, 2004
    El Cerrito, Ca
    FOX OTA 2-1 in SF Bay Area ... started right after installing 6.3a last Friday morning. Get the pixellation issue for a few seconds just as the Audio returns.
  13. billyd88

    billyd88 New Member

    Aug 6, 2003
    Tampa, Fl.
    Fox OTA 13-1 in Tampa. Noticed it during the World Series broadcast. Several annoying drops for about 10 secs. then it comes right back... Is there a fix for this???
  14. Mr. Bill

    Mr. Bill New Member

    Jan 18, 2006
    Dallas, TX
    Got 6.3a Saturday night.

    Get consistant audio dropouts on Fox HD ch 88 when DD is enabled. Goes away when 'DD to PCM' is enabled. I am connected via toslink.

    Cannot get Fox local OTA 4.1 here due to anntenna & distance.

    FWIW, I also get a less-than-1/2-sec, very low, 'static hum' burst from my Denon 3801 AVR when changing channels from one DD station to another. It did not exist before and goes away when 'DD to PCM' is enabled.
  15. drjjr

    drjjr New Member

    May 28, 2004
    Houston, TX
    Got 6.3a Saturday morning. Finally experienced the "true" 6.3a audio dropouts while watching Game 2 last night on Houston's Fox OTA 26-1. Experienced it at least 1/2 dozen times and that's just while I was paying attention. I also had the game delayed by about 15 minutes.
    These 10+ second periods of muted audio followed by a video glitch are unlike any "dropout" that I'd experience prior to having 6.3a. I'm recording Heroes and Studio 60 off of NBC OTA tonight and I'll report back. I'll also be watching Monday Night Football off of ESPNHD.
    Now, it's one thing to miss 10 seconds of audio during a baseball or football game. Chances are they aren't saying anything I care about, anyway. But it's going to be annoying to miss 10 seconds of House's pithy commentary when Fox's regular programming returns.
  16. Robert Spalding

    Robert Spalding TiVo Special Member

    Jan 12, 2001
    Portland, OR
    I got the same dropout here in Portland Oregon last night during the World Series...switching to PCM made no difference, still there. Luckily I only watch baseball (for one more week at least) and NFL on fox, none of their regular show interest me.
  17. RichEM

    RichEM New Member

    Nov 3, 2006
    L'Ville TX
    I have two HR10-250's in separate rooms. Both have the software upgrade. One experiences frequent drop-outs and the other only rarely. In both cases, the audio connection from the unit to a Pioneer receiver is optical digital. When the audio drops while watching either live TV or playback of recoded programs the missing portion can be 'recovered' by rewinding and replaying. It may take several tries, but the audio portion IS recorded! (with frequent dropouts, replays of recorded programming is a pain with all that rewinding!)

    As many posters have noted, the issue seems related primarily to over-the-air HD broadcasts of local network affiliates - most notably CBS Channel 11-1 in Dallas. Admittedly, I use the TiVo's mostly to timeshift CBS programming. I DO NOT experience the problem with recorded or live sporting events on the satellite HD channels.
  18. brad639

    brad639 New Member

    Mar 11, 2005
    In Dallas here,

    Getting fox dropouts every 5-6 minutes on my OTA 4-1

    The other stations on OTA I get about one dropout a show.

    I have not noticed these type of audio dropouts on Satellite programming whether it is HD or just SD

    It is completely new thing since the update. Before the update I had the occasional "digital pixelation" from a hiccup in the antenna reception, but it was usually just 1 second visual skip,

    These new audio problems are 6-10 second dropouts with the pixelation skip when it is over,

    This is VERY annoying and definitely not worth Folders...UGH
  19. TomF

    TomF TiVo: 1999; HD: 2001

    Apr 13, 2001
    San Diego, CA
    Not in Dallas, but this is exactly what I'm experiencing. I first noticed audio dropouts watching Fox live OTA during the playoffs. The it showed up in Fox OTA and CBS OTA recordings. Now it's also occurring on ABC OTA recordings. I've never noticed a dropout on a program recorded from the SAT.
    My thoughts exactly, what's the big deal with folders? They do nothing for me.
  20. thepackfan

    thepackfan Member

    May 21, 2003
    Plano, TX
    Unfortunately with so much of the new season recorded and unwatched the thought of reverting back to 3.1.5f is not an option. If they released this software just a couple weeks earlier I would have reverted already. I'm also in Dallas area fortunately I currently have the East feeds of everything but ABC. I use these for my season passes. Hurts though when you have to watch local Fox for a football game.

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