Apple TV Rumor Mill on Fire/this the end of TiVo???

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Joe3, Oct 25, 2011.

  1. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

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    You don't want hackers to steal episodes of Jersey Shore from you?

    I understand the risks behind cloud computing but risks also exist with local storage.
     
  2. jlb

    jlb Go Pats!

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    If it weren't for TiVo, and TiVoShanan, I wouldn't have badoop, badoop, badoop as my ringtone for TXT messages.

    :)
     
  3. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    Cable company's sell you packages of channels because they negotiate discounts on popular offerings by adding less popular selections.

    If and when an a la cart system overtakes the current funding mechanisms, you are going to see a significant reduction in both channel options and new content development.

    A show would need to be a "sure bet" before a production company would be willing to invest in the development costs.

    It would be like Radio - A bunch of political and sports programming Blech...
     
  4. Arcady

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    Netflix will either cease to exist or double their rates in 2012. They are being priced out of the market by the movie companies.
     
  5. aaronwt

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    Maybe safer but the storage capacity will be very small. With my servers and NAS devices I have over 100TB of storage available at home for me to use. Would the icloud even offer me 1% of that storage space or even .1%(100GB)?
     
  6. Chris Gerhard

    Chris Gerhard Well-Known Member

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    Really, we are all going to be able to record what we want and keep it in a cloud? I can certainly see the internet is going to provide more of the TV content we watch which will make having DVR storage less crucial. I only recently started streaming some of the TV I watch and it works well enough but I see nothing that makes me want to give up a DVR and local storage for programming I want to watch at my convenience. I might stream/download 30GB a month but with Blu-ray, OTA and DVD, I am probably accessing 600GB a month. Is there going to be bandwidth available for everybody to move from a majority local content to internet streaming/downloading? I only yesterday switched to a faster internet service but my thought process is still, I need to limit my usage, there just isn't capacity for all of us to be streaming or downloading so much data.
     
  7. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    Pessimists! :eek:

    The bandwidth and storage capacity will be there. Wait for it..... Wait for it....

    Just look at the technology leaps in the last decade or two. You will have to pay for it of course .... but how much are you spending to maintain 100 TB of storage at home now?
     
  8. Elevation

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    So if Apple makes a tv, are they going to sue all the manufactures that make tvs with black bezels?
     
  9. aaronwt

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    To Maintain? Only a little of my time and around $10 a month in electricity.(I don't have my storage running 24/7)
     
  10. rage777

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    Since my computer isn't on 24/7 and my storage is offline, I do believe my data would be safer. Cloud computing has to be on 24/7 which means hackers can work on it constantly to find the holes. That doesn't mean they will find one, but I would still take my chances with my data in my possesion. Not to mention if my internet connection goes down, or the cloud servers go down, I still have my data with me. I have my important data backed up onto a DVD and stored in my safe, I don't think the cloud people would do that for me.
     
  11. rage777

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    IF Apple was storing TV data on a cloud computer, I highly doubt they are only storing that data. It's not just Apple, lots of companies will store other data that they don't need to store along with your data. Your preferences of shows, account information, IP address, etc. Being a private person, I don't have a cell phone, Facebook (or any other social media) account, I shred all my documents, I have a locked mailbox, etc. In other words, I don't like anybody else knowing too much about me or my personal habits. That includes what TV programs I watch.
     
  12. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    Ha Ha, nice sidestep there! As if electricity cost was all that was involved!
     
  13. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

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    Did you go to Blockbuster late at night just before closing when there were no customers in the store so nobody would see what you were renting? Do you bring a privacy screen with you so you can choose a Redbox movie?
    Do you ask for paper bags at the grocery store so people in the parking lot can't see what you are buying? :rolleyes:
     
  14. jtreid

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    Do you use a Tivo? Then guess what? Tivo knows what TV programs you watch.;)
     
  15. Joe3

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    I don't like giving up a DVR either.

    But I wouldn't mind if I did not have to go through the hassle of losing some shows and having to crack open TiVo every time I need to replace a bad hard drive.

    Even though I not a criminal.

    I wouldn't mind not feeling like a criminal every time I do it because the entertainment hacks and their lawyers that never had a creative idea in their life can't make money for "nothing".
     
  16. lpwcomp

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    Only if they are violating their privacy policy.
     
  17. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

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    Huh? The Tivo is networked and constantly connected to the internet. Tivo doesn't have to break any law for someone to steal your episode of Jersey Shore.
     
  18. jtreid

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    I didn't say they were necessarily giving the information to anyone, but they know and they can do statistics on how you watch things. For instance, the Janet Jackson wardrobe malfunction was the most rewound/rewatched incident according to Tivo. They know what commercials are skipped, watched, rewound. They know what channels are being watched and shows being Tivo'd. They know Season Pass statistics. All that data can be very valuable. They just don't tell the name of the person, but they can tell demographics of the people. Don't fool yourself. Even if you opt'd out, they still gather the data.
     
  19. lpwcomp

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    Actually, unless you have "opted in", they are not supposed to even gather that information.
     
  20. jtreid

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    Riiiiight......
     

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