Apple TV Plus

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  1. Mar 26, 2019 #21 of 144
    bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    I just do not see me paying for the service or content. If the original content is really that good it will be available through other avenues either real time or following a reasonable delay...

    My personal opinion is that these premium service outlets do not bring a lot of value for the money. People are throwing as much cash at this garbage as they would have spent on regular cable service.

    Take Hulu as an example, forced commercials, content is available from all kinds of other sources and locked into another walled garden streaming app. On Sling you have to pay for the highest tier product just to get the Discovery Channel...
     
  2. Mar 26, 2019 #22 of 144
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    Well, the good news is that, if you use a Fire TV or Roku, you should be able (probably by this fall) to install the Apple TV app on that device, which will give you access to all the TV shows (and movies) you ever purchased from iTunes.

    I'd say it's the other way around. If the original content in Apple TV+ is really good, then Apple TV+ will succeed, and its content will probably never be available via another source outside Apple. Sure, Apple might also sell it on iTunes, but they won't ever license it to other services/channels, like Netflix, Hulu, TBS, NBC, etc., as long as Apple TV+ is going strong. Just like we'll probably never see Netflix originals like Stranger Things, Orange Is the New Black, The Crown, etc. show up outside of Netflix.

    Now, if Apple TV+ isn't very good and the whole thing is a bust after a couple of years and Apple throws in the towel, then yeah, I can see them saying, "Well, how do we get *something* out of these billions we spent on content?" Which might mean licensing that content to other platforms.
     
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  3. Mar 26, 2019 #23 of 144
    bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    Good content is always available - that is never an issue
     
  4. Mar 27, 2019 #24 of 144
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    Not sure what the means. But let me know when you can watch Netflix's The Crown in the Hulu app, or Hulu's The Handmaid's Tale on a cable TV channel, or any of the upcoming Apple original series through any service other than Apple TV+.
     
  5. Mar 27, 2019 #25 of 144
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    Umm, the difference is really apples and oranges. Platform and Services. Apple is doing both, so it Amazon.

    AppleTV+ feels just like it’s catching up Amazon Prime Video with special content along with Channels to other content.

    Additionally, you will be able to get the Apple TV+ running as an app or service running on Amazon FireSticks and Roku, etc. Where can run the Hulu app, as well as Netflix...and on each other’s platforms.


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  6. Mar 27, 2019 #26 of 144
    bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    Good content is always available...

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  7. Mar 27, 2019 #27 of 144
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    Yes, but just keep in mind, recordings expire after 9 months on that "unlimited" DVR.

    I actually love the AppleTV remote, especially for navigation and video transport control. I can jump back or forward by clicking the sides of the remote. I can scrub precisely to the exact second I'm looking for with the touchpad. And Siri works pretty well, too. I use this Fintie case BTW, which makes it easier to pick up correctly, hold and use, and less likely to get lost in the couch.
     
  8. Mar 27, 2019 #28 of 144
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    I assume those are screenshots of The Handmaid's Tale on disc? Sure, subscription services often maximize their returns on content by selling it on disc and/or digitally while still retaining exclusive subscription service rights to it. Note that that series is not legally available in the US as part of any subscription service other than Hulu. Same with, say, Stranger Things on Netflix (but which also can be bought on disc).

    As I mentioned before, yes, Apple may choose to sell their Apple TV+ original content via iTunes, but if Apple TV+ is a success, they won't distribute that content via any other subscription services/channels. In addition to iTunes sales, it's possible that they'll also distribute it on disc but I seriously doubt it given Apple's general attitude toward physical media. Keep in mind that Macs all lost DVD/CD drives years ago and Steve Jobs famously referred to Blu-ray as a "bag of hurt". (No Apple product has ever had a BD drive.)

    So, as I said before, there's no reason to think that anyone's going to be watching The Morning Show, Amazing Stories, See or any of the other upcoming Apple original series on their TVs any time soon (legally, anyhow) through anything other than an Apple distributed app, whether you're watching it through the Apple TV+ subscription service or because you've purchased it digitally from Apple/iTunes.
     
  10. Mar 27, 2019 #30 of 144
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    If I haven't watched something in 9 months then I didn't really want to watch it.
     
  11. Mar 27, 2019 #31 of 144
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    You and I DVR content very differently. :)

    Sometimes, there are things I enjoy so much, I'll watch them again. It might even be 10 months later.

    And sometimes I record a whole season and wait until it’s over, to binge it all consecutively.

    A 9 month timer on all recordings would make me anxious.
     
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  12. Mar 27, 2019 #32 of 144
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    @Dan203 Can this thread title please be changed to "Apple TV +" (or "Apple TV Plus") because right now the title makes it sound like the thread is about the AppleTV hardware, and we already have an active thread for that.

    This thread is about the newly-announced Apple TV Plus streaming video service.
     
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  13. Mar 29, 2019 #33 of 144
    bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    It is not...
     
  14. Mar 29, 2019 #34 of 144
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    Looks like Plex and I’m guessing the content is pirated.
     
  15. Mar 29, 2019 #35 of 144
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    Oh. Is it illegally obtained copyrighted material, then?
     
  16. Mar 29, 2019 #36 of 144
    bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    I didn’t pirate it, but one of the libraries I am linked too found a way to get it tinto their library. But when everything is segmented into small little walled gardens each with mandatory commercials and service fees - other options become available.
     
  17. Mar 29, 2019 #37 of 144
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    FWIW, Apple did make it clear that at least programming from TV Plus would be ad-free.
     
  18. Mar 31, 2019 #38 of 144
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    I get most of my Tv Plex library from Tivo/kmttg. Others may do the same. If I can't then I wait until Amazon has a sale on complete seasons and I buy the disks.
    My big P.I.A. is what do you do with all the disks? It is starting to become a storage nightmare but I am too afraid to sell them just in case I have hard drive failure. Then all my CD music, dvd's, Blue-rays would not be available to rescan. I know, back-up your media. Still expensive to do properly.
     
  19. Mar 31, 2019 #39 of 144
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    What are the reasons why you choose to buy full seasons of TV shows on disc rather than digitally (from Amazon, Apple, Google, Vudu, etc.)? Seems like there are trade-offs either way. FWIW, buying TV shows is not really something that I do. Would be nice, though, if Movies Anywhere extended from just movies to also include TV, so that when you buy TV episodes/seasons from one major digital vendor, they're included in your library with all of them.
     
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  20. Mar 31, 2019 #40 of 144
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    1) The Disks always come with extras. If you like commentaries and that extra stuff, it is worth it. 2) I have had a friend claim he had his digital stuff disappear from their iTunes account after Apple lost the right to carry the show.
    It seems that you don't actually "own" that digital show. Now, I have never purchased anything other than some music from Amazon, Apple or Google and was able to download them onto my computer but I don't know about movies or tv shows. He may have been bullshitting me.
     

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