I ask this question because it seems the cheepest way to go if in fact that I cant get a waiver for local HD channels. I was gonna order the HR10-250 from one of our forum sponsers but when I informed him that I needed a new HD dish as well, and now I am thinking out door antenna as part of the package the money just about evens out seeing how DTV's charges include professional installation for both the new dish and antenna. Anyways I ask about the outdoor antenna because, I dont want to have them hook up something that may not even do the job. I live in Tracy, Ca. and have to get my locals from Sacramento. which is close to 40 miles away although its all flat land all the way. Sorry bout gettin sidetracked, HAS anyone had any good or bad experience with the outdoor Antenna that DTV bundles with their HD package??? Thanks in advance if anyone would be nice enough to advise me/.