Anyone tried Youtube Tv and can compare it to Tivo?

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  1. Dec 4, 2019 #141 of 318
    jzinckgra

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    At which point, prices start creeping up to where cable/satellite are. you know it's a matter of time then people will complain how expensive streaming TV is until the next technology knocks them off
     
  2. Dec 4, 2019 #142 of 318
    trip1eX

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    Yeah best thing to do is just try it for free. And you can try it for free multiple times. Just use a different email and credit card each time. I think that does the trick. Then if you have a significant other, use their email and credit cards. You can go 4 months easily that way. Then call up your Mom and borrow their credit card number to secure another free trial. (I actually did this a year ago for YTTV because I wanted to test locals and my area didn't have them and my credit card data grounded me to only my local area.) Oh and a new idea just came to me, Apple Card. Yeah I signed up for that and anyway you change your credit card number right on the phone. I wonder if that would allow a person to keep using the same card for free trial after free trial. Would that get by Google's system? Maybe. /tangent. Point is free trial it.

    And I like it more now than I did when I was trialing it. So much that, even though I think about not getting cable at all, I will continue with it for awhile becasue it's simple and works great. Knock on wood.
     
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  3. Dec 4, 2019 #143 of 318
    jzinckgra

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    This is just like cable/satellite. You get a lot of fluff channels you don't need. Why can't they offer ala carte?
     
  4. Dec 4, 2019 #144 of 318
    saeba

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    As people have been asking this question since the very beginning of cable channel packages, I can only guess that by offering channels in large packages, they use volume of watchers to lower the prices (quantity discounts). So if you pick and choose, the less popular channels become very expensive, so still fewer people pick them and they become even more expensive....
     
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  5. Dec 4, 2019 #145 of 318
    NashGuy

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    We'll never get a la carte in the sense of individual linear channels being offered. "I'd like to purchase ESPN 2 and Discovery Family, please, and only those two specific channels." But what we ARE moving towards is each network owner offering their own direct-to-consumer streaming service that offers all, or nearly all, of the content available on their various linear channels.

    That's what HBO Max is for WarnerMedia. That's what Hulu combined with Disney+ is for Disney. That's what Peacock will become for NBCUniversal. That's probably what CBS All Access combined with Showtime will become for ViacomCBS. Discovery is cooking up one or two big new streaming services for 2020 too. The only significant cable network operators that leaves are Fox, A+E, and Hallmark. Since Fox focuses on content typically consumed live (sports, news, reality/competition), and they probably have some kind of long-term tie-up with Hulu for on-demand rights to the Fox broadcast network's shows, they have no plans to launch their own streaming service. As for A+E (which owns the A&E, History, and Lifetime cable nets) and Hallmark, I'd say it's just a matter of time until they get swallowed up by one of the bigger fish. Discovery, which has a focus on unscripted content, would be the most logical buyer for A&E and History and their content libraries to put on their own forthcoming streaming service. Lifetime and the Hallmark nets would make sense as part of either ViacomCBS or NBCUniversal.
     
  6. Dec 5, 2019 #146 of 318
    mschnebly

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    The best part of all this is we are no longer locked into just 2 options... either cable with it's contracts and price or OTA with it's problems with antennae. The better YTTV gets the better the others will have to be to keep competitive. Over time I'm betting we will get better choices and better PQ. Soon the days of just 1 ISP will be gone. I'm using T-Mobile Home with no data caps instead of having to go with COX at 1T. Couldn't do that even a year ago. More choices are coming. Channels DVR with TVE, etc pick and choose.
     
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  7. Dec 5, 2019 #147 of 318
    trip1eX

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    true except satellite was already competition for pay tv. Most people always had the choice of DTV, Dish or cable.

    And ultimately even YTTV is still just the old legacy tv model that is going to die out. Sports is really the only thing keeping it up.
     
  8. Dec 5, 2019 #148 of 318
    NashGuy

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    Why even bother with the Roamio OTA when you've got YTTV? Is it just for those locals that YTTV doesn't carry, like PBS and diginets like MeTV? Although YTTV will be getting PBS soon and there's a free PBS app that streams nearly all their recent stuff. If I subscribed to any cable TV service, I don't think I'd even bother with OTA, especially if it meant switching TV inputs...
     
  9. Dec 5, 2019 #149 of 318
    hefe

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    I had it first, it's paid for lifetime.

    Plus, it records my current locals, while YTTV records my Chicago locals.
     
  10. Dec 5, 2019 #150 of 318
    dlfl

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    Streaming TV will not be a long-term solution to either the high cost of content or being forced to take packages with fluff. These things occur due to factors that are present regardless of the delivery mechanism. But it's a great thing anyway for at least two reasons:
    1. Competition with cable TV and SATTV has to be a good thing.
    2. Giving many of us freedom from being jerked around by cable TV.

    #2 is a huge factor to me personally. My experience with Spectrum cable was a major PITA in several ways:
    1. Virtually non-existent support for the required Tuning Adapter.
    2. Every year (or even more often) a huge price increase and painful hours spent on the phone needed to get even a small reduction.
    3. They even made cutting cable and returning my CableCARD and TA an insultingly painful experience that took several hours.

    They got away with some of this because they are a local monopoly. That's why the competition offered by streaming services is important.*

    I turned in my TA on 22 Nov and was sorry I couldn't take it out in a field and smash it with a sledge hammer. (Equipment charge would be over $100.). So far I'm loving YTTV and singing "free at last, free at last". :p

    *Unfortunately Spectrum is currently a local monopoly for internet but that is ending. Metronet is building out fiber-to-the-home here with Gigabit service at prices already competitive with Spectrum.
     
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    osu1991

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    Data caps :(

    It wastes data watching locals over YTTV, if you already have a TiVo with lifetime service and OTA for locals.

    If however, you’re like my sister and have symmetrical 500/500 fiber service and no data cap from windstream, then yes, don’t bother switching inputs and just use TiVo as backup in case of an outage or for local content not available via a streaming service.
     
  12. Dec 5, 2019 #152 of 318
    samsauce29

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    @dlfl Wholeheartedly agree with your sentiment! YouTube TV is certainly NOT TiVo in terms of trick play. At least not yet. But, the ability to never speak to Spectrum sales or retention again is priceless!
     
  13. Dec 5, 2019 #153 of 318
    dlfl

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    Of course, as soon as I said how much I liked YTTV, a major fail tonight. Tried to play my recording of tonight's "The Five" on Fox News and get nothing but spinning circles forever. Everything else seems fine.

    This was using my Fire TV Cube. The same recording plays OK on my iPad app.
     
  14. Dec 5, 2019 #154 of 318
    moyekj

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    Greg is messing with you.
     
  15. Dec 5, 2019 #155 of 318
    dlfl

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    That's not funny! I need my dose of Greg tonight -- on a big screen!
     
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    saeba

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    dlfl

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    And of course, this morning that episode will play, and I get an email response from YTTV thanking me for reporting the problem but they couldn't fix it. o_O

    Edit -- update:
    This morning the same problem with recording of "Morning Joe", but only on the Fire TV Cube and not for other recordings made this morning. Had a long chat with YTTV and they finally "escalated" case to support.
     
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  18. Dec 7, 2019 #158 of 318
    moyekj

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    If TiVo ever rolls out pre-roll ads or TiVo+ guide entries to T3 TiVos (non Hydra) then that will be my cue to switch to YTTV or something similar.
     
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    ManeJon

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    My son has YTTV and really likes it. What he misses (or maybe can't find how) is to record a program that is currently on- so he wants to record a sports because he has to go out or wants to so he can watch in a while and skip ads. Maybe he just hasn't figured out how to yet
     
  20. Dec 7, 2019 #160 of 318
    mdavej

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    It records live from the moment he hits the “+”.
     

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