Anyone tried Youtube Tv and can compare it to Tivo?

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  1. NashGuy

    NashGuy Well-Known Member

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    If you're going that route, it might be worth your while to consider buying an AirTV Mini (Android TV streamer with a UI customized for Sling) and an AirTV 2 (OTA tuner+DVR that integrates with the Sling app). The former costs $80 and the latter $100, although they each have a $25 credit toward Sling, so a net cost of $130 for both.

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  2. mrizzo80

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    I may also consider the Spectrum “pick 10” channels. The package for $25 (which escalates to $40 with fees.)

    I just bought a Stream 4K and it doesn’t look like their app works on it though. I may buy an Apple TV this fall when they drop new hardware.
     
  3. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    I’m mulling it over. Perhaps Sling Blue. I have Spectrum’s lowest-priced internet which is 100/10 and costs $70 with no taxes or fees. Metronet fiber-to-the-home is buliding out in my area and I plan to try that. It offers only slightly better cost/performance than Spectrum. I have no complaint about Spectrum internet, which is solid and has no caps. Even just the 100 Mbps is more than enough for our single-stream household.
     
  4. tommiet

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    In my area, Spectrum would raise my 200 Mbps internet bill $30.00 a month if I drop cable TV. So YTTV would end up costing me $94.99 a month. Streaming services with Spectrum.... just can't do it. Maybe when Starlink comes on line, I can dump Spectrum and (no rocks please... TiVo.)
     
  5. mrizzo80

    mrizzo80 Well-Known Member

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    I’m in Cincinnati. I moved from a TWC 15MB plan about a year ago to the lowest Spectrum plan (200) and enjoyed the “new customer” promo rate of $45 for 12 months. I got a letter in the mail a few months ago saying it would jump to $70, but it only jumped to $60. That temporarily reprieve could be related to the lockdown. I’d choose 50MB for $45/mo if I could.
     
  6. ncted

    ncted A leaf on the wind

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    I already have a Recast 4-tuner DVR. I've been using it as a backup for YTTV for Fox and NBC, not that much has been on.
     
  7. Bigg

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    $30/mo is still crazy basically for cable news.
     
  8. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Hopefully someone knows the answer to this: If you "pause" YTTV for a month or two and then return, does it still continue your DVR recordings while paused. I doubt it does but thought I would ask. If it did, then it's conceivable to just go a month or two without and then binge watch the recordings and pause again.
     
  9. trip1eX

    trip1eX imo, afaik, feels like to me, *exceptions, ~aprox

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    yeah it doesn't keep recording new stuff. you don't lose current recordings though.
     
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  10. trip1eX

    trip1eX imo, afaik, feels like to me, *exceptions, ~aprox

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    Fubo hiked their price too. $10/mo according to TheVerge. Possibly could only be $5/mo. Fubo also lost the Time Warner channels.
     
  11. trip1eX

    trip1eX imo, afaik, feels like to me, *exceptions, ~aprox

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    It might be optimistic at $20 for the 5 sports channels. But could throw out the RSN and probably could be done. RSN cost will vary anyway. I know the rough cost of the cable channels.

    The bigger obstacle is each media company agreeing to give only one of their channels to such a service. I mean I wouldn't doubt if somebody out there had this idea and tried to make it work and were shut down. Also contract/rights issues are probably an obstacle as well.
     
  12. zalusky

    zalusky Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    I am kind of wondering if the cats out of the bag so to speak and the big media companies will eventually force direct pay and cut the cable business units out of the tv package loop. Originally the cable companies had all the power and would not even allow OTT and then HBO offered it and the damn started breaking. Now many internet vehicles OTT has broken out and all the media companies with their consolidated content are offering packages Peacock being sort of late to the game.

    I think this future is a big reason that Comcast bought NBC and ATT bought Time Warner media to get content and keep revenue. Will Verizon buy CBS next?
     
  13. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    LOL my $130/mo. all-in double play with Comcast looks better all the time.

    YTTV at $65/mo. is a non starter vs. my Tivo setup and that package.
     
  14. moyekj

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    I turned off WiFi on my phone to research Cox internet pricing as a new customer (since if I use Cox internet they refuse to show new customer pricing in their horrible web pages). Cox "Internet preferred 150" which is the same 150/5 Mbps plan I have now with 1.25TB data cap is $84/month without any promotions and using my own modem (which I already own). So obviously the $190/month for just internet was a complete fabrication or assuming all the add on internet packages (renting their WiFi gateway, the low lag option for gamers, the unlimited data, plus Cox Care, etc). That is much more like it. So with $65/month YTTV that would put monthly total at $149/month compared to the triple play $180/month special pricing I have now through Cox. That is the true comparison. So not a lot of savings/month to stick with Cox for now, but I know in a few months the bill will go up and current "savings" will go away and I'll have to fight to lower the price again, so may be worth just doing it now to get rid of that hassle.
     
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  15. gkottner

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    Sling currently has an offer for one month of Blue (or Orange) and 1 month of Epix, Starz and Showtime for $20. Included DVR is only 10 hrs. You can raise it to 50 hours for $5. I'm an on and off again user of Sling since it has AXS TV. (Old 60s rocker here) The DVR works, but it is not fluid nor intuitive. You'll get messages that say "This action is not allowed" and then you press the button again and it will work. To get to the DVR version of your show, you have to select the show from the DVR row. If you pause the show and then re-access in any other manner than the DVR row, you'll end with with a VOD version. Also, if you have a fire tv, the voice controls work for the most part. Good Luck.
     
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  16. mdavej

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    The key to my savings with YTTV is the fact that mine is shared. Just sharing with my parents (whose TV I pay for anyway) replaces their $120 TV bill and my $120 TV bill with a single $65 TV bill. Yes, if I beg and plead or threaten to cancel every year, I can usually get a deal on cable. But even with hefty discounts, all the extra fees wipe out most of those savings.

    Bottom line, for two households combined, I'm looking a $30 for internet in one home plus $45 for internet and $65 for TV in the other, for a grand total of $140. If it were just me, I wouldn't get cable/streaming TV at all, just free OTA.
     
  17. mdavej

    mdavej Well-Known Member

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    I was looking hard at Sling too. The cable channels would work fine, but it's the lack of locals that kills it for me. YTTV is the only one that has all my locals, including PBS. So I'm still kind of stuck with YTTV.

    But if locals weren't an issue, I'd go for Sling Blue and the free AirTV offer to get locals via antenna.
     
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  18. gkottner

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    I should have added that I can get all my locals with OTA, so Sling doesn't have that drawback for me.
     
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  19. lparsons21

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    You can’t get any locals, or just not some locals? You do know that Hulu basic has next day showings of broadcast shows for all but CBS, right?
     
  20. chiguy50

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    You might have a couple of better options right now with Comcast, particularly if you were willing to let go of their VoIP phone service. Bear in mind that you don't have to wait until the end of your current 2-year agreement to switch plans since in most cases you will be exempt from any early termination fees as long as you retain at least one Comcast service on your account. If in doubt, check the terms of your contract and/or talk with a Comcast CSR about your options.

    Looking at current offers in Cupertino (zip code 95014), there is, e.g., the X1 Premier Pro+ Double Play with HBO Max ($130 plus fees & taxes w/12-mo. agreement), which should be similar to what you have now except without the VoIP but with a HSI speed boost to gigabit; it does not include the X1 STB rental but should add a few additional channels over your older Preferred tier; and it offers a $10/p.m. discount if you have Xfinity Mobile cellular service.

    Alternatively, there's the similar X1 Preferred Pro+ Double Play ($105 plus fees & taxes), which should have the same channel lineup as your current plan minus HBO but with a small speed boost to 600Mbps. One advantage of this plan is that you can add HBO Max for $15 p.m. and then drop and re-add it as you like to save subscription fees from time to time since Xfinity (unlike every other provider AFAIK) will only charge you a pro-rata fee (approx. $0.50) for the number of days in the billing period that the premium channel subscription is active.

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    Or, if you want to keep the VoIP, you can opt for a new 2-year agreement with the X1 Preferred Pro+ Triple Play with HBO Max ($140 plus fees & taxes). The end price should be about the same as you are paying now (assuming that the price you quoted is the net monthly recurring cost), but you get double the HSI speed and an additional year of service price freeze under the agreement. And, as with the other two plans, you can get another $10 off with XM cellular service.

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