Anyone tried Youtube Tv and can compare it to Tivo?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by omelet1978, Mar 18, 2019.

  1. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I remember on TiVo for some UK shows they weren't considered new/first aired either, so for those shows you had to set them up as new & repeats to catch them.
     
  2. JolDC

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    I was in the same boat. TiVo owner from year 1. It was a tough decision at the time but I am happier now. Now keep in mind that my situation was one where my network-based TV viewing had been reduced to almost nothing. Basically daily shows or shows where we didn’t want to wait until they were available from a streaming service.

    For those reading this that decide to stick with TiVo, I have 2 Bolts (no service included) in need of a new home. No charge, just shipping.
     
  3. mattyro7878

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    Just getting rid of my 3 boxes and 3 cablecards would pay for YTTV. My Comcast contract is up in a few weeks. If they give me some decent speed for $60-$70 plus $14 for modem I will go you tube. Then again the quality of trick play on Tivo is unparalleled. I try to frame by frame or go back 7 seconds when streaming and I want to go nuts. After 3 attempts I end up 20 minutes behind or ahead of where I was ...cant take it.
     
  4. trip1eX

    trip1eX imo, afaik, feels like to me, *exceptions, ~aprox

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    Except you don't have to clean up anything. You just start watching.

    I didn't understand your phrasing because of the "once you clean stuff up...." part of it. That part is only for the OCD in a person. :)

    New just organizes stuff pretty much like My Shows on Tivo did. That's the gist of it at least.
     
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  5. trip1eX

    trip1eX imo, afaik, feels like to me, *exceptions, ~aprox

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    It's got its idiosyncrasies. But it was the same difference with Tivo. IT's just a new set to learn. :)
     
  6. pdhenry

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    Why not buy a modem? It would pay for itself within a year +/-.
     
  7. JolDC

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    Can you please not jump in to every mention of this claiming we have a serious psychological disorder just because we want things different than you? We get it.
     
  8. JolDC

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    I was able to get a 600M deal for $99. $25 of that was the boost from 300M so you should be able to get 300M for around $75.

    I used their subreddit to handle it. It took them a few weeks to get to my request but it allowed me to make the change dropping TV service without dealing with their retention team.
     
  9. ncted

    ncted A leaf on the wind

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    I just wish YTTV would provide an option to view the recordings of a given show in the order they were recorded as opposed to the season & episode or original airdate.
     
  10. moyekj

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    Maybe a silly question with an obvious answer, but here goes. What is the proper/easy way to stop playback of a recording such that it doesn't continue playing in the background? Normally most recorded titles I don't reach the very end of the recording because there is some padding at the end. If you just use "Back" button to exit it keeps playing. Is the only sane way to do it then to pause it and then back out? What do you YTTV users do when done watching something?

    On a related note, how to quickly get back to top "NEW IN YOUR LIBRARY" view without having to press a bunch of "Back" buttons? I'm constantly annoyed by this GUI and these app GUIs in general how many times you have to press "Back" when navigating around. I really miss a home type button (like TIVo button for TiVos) where you just go straight to a starting point without a whole bunch of presses. That kind of thing annoyed me too with TE4 making heavy use of Back button for certain things.
     
  11. mdavej

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    @moyekj, Am I reading correctly that a long-time Tivo user is complaining about not being able to stop playback? I've complained about that aspect of Tivo for years only to be met with ridicule and bewilderment. "That's insane. Why would anybody ever want to stop playback when they can just pause or pick a different program? You need to have your head examined."
     
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  12. moyekj

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    On my TE3 TiVos the "spoiler" window (as I always called it) is turned off, so when I stopped playback there was nothing playing in the background. In fact as a TiVo user I complained about the guide having live tv in background as the only place I could not turn off, but I rarely use the guide anyway so didn't matter.
     
  13. moyekj

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    Another weirdness: For recordings on "local" channels they are actually being recorded from Florida local channels (home of the primary YTTV family member) even though I'm in California. The weird thing is they are blocked from playing back until fully recorded for some odd reason. I can understand recording local channels from the primary region, but why block them from playback until fully recorded? So effectively instead of getting local recordings 3 hours earlier, it's (3 hours - length of recording) before I can watch them. Very odd...
     
  14. osu1991

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    Yep that happens to us too when at our home in Vegas. Our accounts primary address is our home in Oklahoma. We can watch the Vegas locals live when out there, but recordings come from Tulsa locals and can’t be watched until they’re finished and some times can’t be watched until after the west coast airing is over.
     
  15. moyekj

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    OK thanks, must be some restriction to comply with streaming rights of some sort no doubt. I haven't spent any time examining commercials to see if they are Florida local as well, or if some kind of commercial insertion is happening such that Florida local commercials are being replaced (hence perhaps the wait time for playing back). I have noticed on some recordings from Discovery channel some weird "empty" spots where commercials should be which indicates some manipulation of commercials is happening. Probably just overthinking this though...
     
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    I pause then back out. Don’t know another way.

    For getting back to library, it is just one back for me which takes me to a page with “Library Home Live” across the top. One or two lefts gets me to library which defaults to New.
     
  17. ncted

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    Pause, then back out is the only way I have found.

    For the second question, I have not found a quick way, but if you wanted to go to Live TV, you press the down on the navigation pad to get to a list of live channels.
     
  18. pdhenry

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    You can hit pause while it's playing in the background, BTW.

    I don't know how playing in the background affects the point at which the show resumes when you go back in the next session though.Ideally it should resume where you backed out to the menus.
     
  19. NotVeryWitty

    NotVeryWitty Too Big to Fail

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    Does that mean that time-shifting sports events requires you to wait for the end of the game before you can start watching it? That would be a deal-breaker for me.
     
  20. trip1eX

    trip1eX imo, afaik, feels like to me, *exceptions, ~aprox

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    Stop being hysterical. I said a lot more than my little OCD joke. YOur post and wording were confusing. You don't have to delete anything for the New tab to work like it works.

    Also pretty obvious that my OCD joke about some of the features people think YTTV needs is also half-true. :)
     
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