Anyone tried Youtube Tv and can compare it to Tivo?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by omelet1978, Mar 18, 2019.

  1. pl1

    pl1 Well-Known Member

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    Sounds good! For myself, I was just trying to see if I could utilize the box I have rather than having to buy a stick. There is an HD version (non 4K) they sell for $25 too. But I already have three TV's with built in apps, so it's not a need to have item.

    You might also want to take a look at Philo for $20/mo. The only thing really missing is sports. Otherwise, pretty good deal for $20. I really want the regional sports, so if anything, I might ADD that to get A&E.
     
  2. mdavej

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    So you only have a stick or do you have a Recast? How does a stick alone get locals? Are you using it will some other OTA tuner?

    BTW, I have several 4k sticks, all of which were about $25 on sale a couple of weeks ago. Paired with a Recast, they make great Tivo/Mini replacements and have no monthly fees like Tivo.
     
  3. jzinckgra

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    I'm using the stick with youtube tv. Locals are avail with yttv.
     
  4. heyadam

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    I still like the Roku devices over the Amazon Fire. I have Roku TV's or Roku Premiere+ running YouTube TV a Google Nest Home Hub Max and Home Hub and I can watch/resume anything, anywhere. The YTTV experience has been fantastic over the last month. One feature I really wanted, the ability to block certain, uh, channels, isn't on TiVo or YTTV--both let you remove them from the guide or channel list but not block them. I put in a feature request.

    Overall, sometimes I wonder why I didn't move to YTTV sooner! Their recent additions of FF on CBS, PBS and OWN have been icing on the cake.
     
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  5. Beryl

    Beryl Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    When I told a Xfinity on-site service rep today that I was looking at YTTV & Xfinity internet, he confessed that if he wasn’t an employee, he would do the same.

    - One customer showed him a huge spreadsheet comparing several services and YTTV came out on top. We talked about some of the missing channels and he said that YTTV is new so they will be adding them.

    - Xfinity is gearing up to compete with YTTV with their streaming service. They need to add DVR in the Cloud though.

    - TiVo guide is far superior to Xfinity’s. He noticed it when I was looking at the content on a particular channel that wasn’t coming in over a week. He was surprised about the pre-roll ad drama because his customers love their TiVos but no one likes ads. He dropped Hulu due to ads.

    I’m keeping Xfinity for 1 more year. The Xfinity-caused drama this week led them to offer me a 12 month double play package that was too good to pass up — for now. Next year, YTTV will be perfect so Xfinity needs to step up their game.
     
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  6. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    Confused. I thought you had YTTV? And you didn't have any locals on it?
     
  7. jzinckgra

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    More comparison between TiVo ota and yttv locals shows very washed out dull colors on yttv. I keep switching back and forth and it's noticeable. I saw yttv settings for color were 8 bit, so I switched to "up to 12 bit". Color format is set to Auto. Anyone else notice the poorer colors on locals?
     
  8. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    This not at all for me. I assume you use different HDMI inputs on your TV for YTTV and TiVo. If so you may need to adjust the picture settings for the YTTV input. On my TV at least there are distinct settings for each input. My YTTV picture is every bit as good as my TiVo picture, in terms of color, contrast, resolution, etc.
     
  9. jzinckgra

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    To clarify, I have the firestick 4k plugged into my avr vs tv. Do you think this would matter? I can certainly adjust tv settings but then that screws up the color settings for Prime and Netflix movies which look good otherwise. Thanks
     
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  10. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    Does seem to point the finger at YTTV. Are all YTTV videos this way or just the locals? If it's just the locals YTTV should be able to fix it.
     
  11. jzinckgra

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    Think I figured it out. It was one of the yttv video settings. Specifically under dynamic range settings, I had it set to Always HDR. I switched to Adaptive and that seems to have fixed the bad color I was getting
     
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  12. saeba

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    Another much requested YTTV change. First available in web version then to other devices in future.

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  13. saeba

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    Posting these updates to keep my post in this thread up to date on comparing TiVo vs YTTV; however, can't help but also notice the speed of change with YTTV as opposed with TiVo. TiVo seemed to take forever to make updates, whereas Google is releasing a constant flow of changes that their user community has requested. I'm liking this!
     
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  14. slowbiscuit

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    Yeah, but a big part of that is YTTV is either web or app-based whereas Tivo has a lot of different hardware/UI versions to deal with. Not excusing Tivo just saying that it's a lot easier for Google and of course they actually care more.
     
  15. trip1eX

    trip1eX imo, afaik, feels like to me, *exceptions, ~aprox

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    Google has so many more resources than Tivo. And that is an understatement.


    It is a pretty cool to have the ability to change the web ui first in order to test and get feedback before rolling out the changes out to each platform’s app. Or so it seems.
     
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  16. trip1eX

    trip1eX imo, afaik, feels like to me, *exceptions, ~aprox

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    new 7 day guide is ok. you can only skip forward 2hrs at a time on the web UI afaik. This is too slow to be useful. it needs Tivo-like controls. skip a day at a time or 12 hrs of whatever. also page up/down. Perhaps some of this is already present through special keys or remote controls on some apps and I'm just not aware of it.

    Also needs to show the date at the top (keep the date at the top) as you scroll down (and scroll forward through ) the channel list and times and show the time at the top as well. It has a weird system of dealing with times as in doesn't have a column showing 8pm for example. It will list the time each show started next to the title of each show. But that makes it confusing when you see some shows at 8pm and some at 7pm etc. Also should show shows that are going to be or currently are being recorded.

    Guide isn't a strong point of the YTTV. And don't think that changes with the 7 days of show info added the way they added it.

    But I have adapted I guess and just use the guide to see what's on now. It is called Live after all and so I treat it basically as what's on now and just about to come up. I just use as it seems they intended. Search is used to locate stuff farther (out) more quickly. Any more than that and I think a person is asking too much of it. :)
     
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  17. pl1

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    I agree with everything you said. There is one thing the guide does that excels over TiVo. There is an ongoing preview playing on every live channel in the guide. And it is big enough to be useful. With TiVo, you only get a text description while scrolling so if you don't recognize something by text, you may miss something you might be interested in. I did not really realize this before I started watching YTTV.

    Oh, and I also like that you can re-arrange the order on your guide. So, if you have a few most watched channels, you can place them at the top. That is a nice feature as well.
     
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  18. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    What device are you seeing this on? It's not in the Fire TV YTTV app.
     
  19. pl1

    pl1 Well-Known Member

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    Web page and the Android app. Hopefully it will show up on the other apps. I do not see it on my Samsung TV either.
     
  20. NightmarePatrol

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    Tomorrow we make the switch from Frontier to YTTV. We have a bolt that has a lifetime contract on it. If TiVo has a YTTV app that would be spectacular. It would be even better if it record YTTV broadcasts. We're in the minority in that we have mycj larger than average bandwith to the house and can easily support all 4 tuners recording a 4K show. I'm not tossing the bolt just yet, but the cost of cable TV is the driving factor. If we could get OTA locals where I live we could just do pluto.tv and pay the extra for a the few channels we watch. The entertaiment content is much better on streaming.
     

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