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anyone else order a Caavo today?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by tivoknucklehead, Feb 14, 2018.

  1. Feb 21, 2018 #21 of 217
    TiVoJerry

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    There’s currently no silicon that can do 8-port HDR, but we plan to support Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA in an update soon.
     
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  2. Feb 22, 2018 #22 of 217
    tivoknucklehead

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    mine arrives today. I'll report back Friday when I set it up
     
  3. Feb 23, 2018 #23 of 217
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    tivoknucklehead Well-Known Member

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    ok set it up this morning. Fairly easy to connect devices. I have a Roamio, Roku Ultra, Fire TV, Apple TV and Sony Blu Ray connected. My only real issue (other than learning the remote buttons) is I can't get the Caavo to control my Tivo Roamio (and it should). I am using the extender they provided to connect my HDMI cable into the tivo with the other end an IR blaster, with another IR blaster connected to the Caavo. I can still easily use my Tivo remote until I get it figured out.
    The watchlist feature is excellent. It lists all my Hulu, Netflix and Amazon watchlists on an easy to navigate screen. Alexa control is a bit funky. Setup was simple but it seems to want to play everything on my Fire TV even though my Roku is my preferred device. The Caavo mic does work great and does go to the Roku first, its just Alexa that is problematic. Am still playing with it. If I can get the Caavo to control my Roamio I'll be pretty satisfied
     
  4. Feb 23, 2018 #24 of 217
    PJO1966

    PJO1966 Hi. What is this?

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    I'm looking forward to hearing more as you work through it.
     
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  5. Feb 23, 2018 #25 of 217
    TiVoJerry

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    If Roamio is in an enclosure separated from Caavo, the IR emitters are essential to getting commands from Caavo. Make sure that you are using the 3ft IR transmitter that mates with the HDMI-IR cable and that it is fully seated. That transmitter would then need to point at the front of Roamio.

    To make sure IR is emitting, use your phone's camera to see the transmitter flashing. If you are using an iPhone, you may need to use the camera that faces the user because the main camera has an IR filter. See Infrared LED Light With an IPhone 4.... Use a working IR remote to confirm the functionality on your camera and then test it against the Caavo emitter. You can even check that the Caavo box is emitting IR from its six emitters (two on front, two on top, one on each side), as well as to test the 9ft transmitter.

    As I understand it, even when the TiVo remote is set to RF capability, TiVo can still receive IR commands. If that has changed since my tenure there, then you may want to put TiVo into IR mode.
     
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  6. Feb 23, 2018 #26 of 217
    krkaufman

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    Good info no matter the specific device being debugged. Thanks.

    TiVo boxes are ALWAYS in IR mode*, in addition to RF where applicable; only the remotes, themselves, can be toggled between IR and RF mode for communication with their associated box.

    edit: * p.s. It should be noted that TiVos can be configured to a unique IR remote address, 1-9, which would prevent response to any IR commands sent using one of the other possible non-zero addresses. (Any remote configured for remote address 0, the default, can control any TiVo box via IR regardless of whether the TiVo box has been configured with a non-zero IR remote address, and vice versa.)
     
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  7. Feb 23, 2018 #27 of 217
    tenthplanet

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    Sometimes IR blasters are like TV Antennas, you mess around until you find the magic spot, then you lock it in place. People who owned Tivo S2's remember doing this with cable boxes.
     
  8. Feb 24, 2018 #28 of 217
    Mikeguy

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    Mine was/is pretty good: it picks up the signal bounced off the room ceiling (no need to point the remote at the box sweet spot). :)
     
  9. Feb 24, 2018 #29 of 217
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    ok day 2 in the morning, the IR blasters continue to perform poorly in controlling the Tivo. After getting used to 99.9% instant response with my Harmony or my Tivo remotes this is completely unacceptable.
     
  10. Feb 24, 2018 #30 of 217
    krkaufman

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    What means "poorly"? Slow, delayed relay of commands or missed commands? Or both?
     
  11. Feb 24, 2018 #31 of 217
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    I’m defining poorly as only doing the command 10% of the time in a well lit room. I will compare again tonight when the room is dark to see if that is it. If they make extenders for the IR that connects to the Tivo I can get them much closer together and that would probably help too.
     
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  12. Feb 24, 2018 #32 of 217
    HerronScott

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    What do you mean by TiVo IR blaster? You mean the IR receiver on the front of the TiVo? I don't suppose you are partially blocking the TiVo receiver with your 2 Slingbox blaster/transmisitters?

    Do you have this setup as (ex)TiVoJerry indicated? I don't see the square box transmitter in front of the TiVo in your picture? Is see it in front of the Caavo (which seems odd unless that's for another device)?

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    Scott
     
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  13. Feb 25, 2018 #33 of 217
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    Here is a new pic of my setup.

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    I moved the IR's to face each other and they are just over 6 ft. apart at close to the same height. I am using the 2 that came in the box and they are installed properly because they work fine at night when the room is dark. The room is still fairly dark now at 9 am and they are still working. I will test again this afternoon when the room is well lit to see if that kills them

    this is the TV IR controller plugged into the Caavo that points to the other one connected to the Tivo

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    Does anyone know if I can buy a dongle for this with a longer cord, or if they make one with a longer cord? If I had a longer cord I could put both the blasters within a few inches of each other and I'm sure that would solve this issue
     
  14. Feb 25, 2018 #34 of 217
    stevel

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    I can’t quite tell what kind of plug is on that cord. It might be possible to buy an extension cable for it.
     
  15. Feb 25, 2018 #35 of 217
    tivoknucklehead

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    I have Caavo tech support researching this
     
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  16. Feb 25, 2018 #36 of 217
    HerronScott

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    Those are both IR transmitters (not a transmitter and a receiver as your picture seems to have them pointed at each other). One is for the TV and the other is for other hidden devices (ie the TiVo). The second black box should be sitting in front of the TiVo and point *toward* the TiVo like your Slingbox IR blaster/transmitters (again like TiVoJerry's post indicated).

    I found a quick start guide on the FCC's site but it isn't very helpful and I couldn't find a full user manual on Caavo's site.

    R1100 Remote control User Manual Caavo Inc

    I did find a review of the Caavo which referred to the IR over HDMI for the second IR transmitter/blaster.

    "There’s another neat cable trick as well: Caavo’s version of an IR blaster has been engineered to work over HDMI, so you only have to run one cable to devices that need IR control; a breakout box at the other end splits off the IR blaster. I don’t love IR blasters, but it’s clever."

    Scott
     
  17. Feb 25, 2018 #37 of 217
    tivoknucklehead

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    here is what I know for sure. Both of these "transmitters" are installed correctly. The one in the bottom pic in post 33 is connected to the caavo. the other two
    pictured below snap together and are connected to the tivo's hdmi port. They work fine in a dark room as I have them setup pointing to each other in post 33 pic. Right now the room is well lit and they don't work at all. I need to get them much closer together to see if that fixes it, thus looking for an extender solution

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  18. Feb 25, 2018 #38 of 217
    mattyro7878

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    my 55" roku tv cost less than this caavo. no hdr on my tv though
     
  19. Feb 25, 2018 #39 of 217
    Mikeguy

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    In the meanwhile, I wonder: would there be a benefit to trying a readily-available HDMI extension cable with the IR dongle that attaches to the TiVo, to get that closer to the Caavo IR dongle? (Buy locally so as to be able to return, if it doesn't help.) I would think that this could be easy enough to do/try. It looks like the other IR dongle could use an almost audio-like extension cable, but it is difficult to tell from here/the pic. Perhaps a quick visit to a local electronics store (if there even is one near you, nowadays) could be beneficial. Or checking with Caavo (here or elsewhere)/waiting for its response.
     
  20. Feb 25, 2018 #40 of 217
    ginginlala

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    I received my Caavo a few days ago and am a TiVo Bolt Vox user. LOVE the Caavo so far...works surprisingly well, particularly the deep linking. I am having one nuisance issue in that it's stopped turning my Panasonic TV on (it actually shuts it off, just doesn't turn it on), which is double odd in that this worked fine at first and then stopped at some point. Probably some component conflict issue...I have a weird setup in that my Sonos Playbar doesn't do HDMI audio and my Panasonic TV's optical out doesn't pass DD through so I have to use a splitter to get DD audio, and the Caavo is running through the splitter, which is on 100% of the time.

    ANYway, nonsense details. If the HDR thing doesn't bother you and if you have multiple boxes I highly recommend getting this thing.
     

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